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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 01:23 AM Original message |
America’s Wind Energy Potential Triples in New Estimate |
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onestepforward (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 01:58 AM Response to Original message |
1. K&R |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 03:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. How come for the last 30 years it's involved "estimates" and "studies" but very little... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. So how many *new* US nucular power plants have been ordered in the last 30 years? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Anti-nuclear hysteria has been very effective in propping up |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. That would be like the "regulatory nightmare" that hobbled the banks? Anther nuclear circle jerk. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. Nope, economics ended US reactor starts - more were canceled than built |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Why do you think Obama is putting so much money |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Compared to renewables? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. What's your point? |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #16 |
26. It is (of course) about budget priorities |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Obama is going to build a *handful* of nukes in red states to woo suppport for GHG emissions regs |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Got it |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Ummm- they produce gas in AL and a bit of oil too |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. My bad, you are correct. It's in GA. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. No it's partisan politics - red states get nukes and political pressure to reduce GHG emissions |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. $54B for PR seems just a bit wasteful |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. It's really wasteful and I'm against it |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:31 PM Response to Reply #23 |
25. You keep fighting, you're doing a great job. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. you make me |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #4 |
17. "Nucular" hehe...that wouldn't be nearly as funny if it was intentional nt |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:20 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Love the picture |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. ROFLMAO |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 01:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
10. Wind Turbines and Home Values |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Flawed methodology |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
22. Well, let's see... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. As I've pointed out, the residents around Vermont Yankee are very happy |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:44 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Are the residents around Vermont Yankee happy? |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. Your survey includes people from around the state |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I believe you have a mistaken understanding of wind turbine siting |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Ah ah ahhh, you're fudging |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 06:02 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Fine. |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 06:16 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. An exaggeration strawman is so uncharacteristic of you, OK |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 06:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. I simply got tired of your characterization of the study as invalid |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 08:49 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. The data set is not meaningful |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 09:11 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No it isn't a valid objection. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 09:14 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. If a close home is not able to see or hear the windmills, that's important data |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 12:51 AM Response to Reply #38 |
39. You can't be serious. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 01:10 AM Response to Reply #39 |
41. There are studies on transmission lines, too, and they don't generally include lines... |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 01:37 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. You're correct, that's addressed in the report as "area stigma" |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 02:03 AM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Don't disagree. They've obviously weighted wrong. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. What are you missing? Objectivity and rationality. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
40. Thanks for the link, more research needs to be done. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. That doesn't appear to include the offshore resource. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-22-10 01:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
42. Cool, we'd only have to build 294 thousand of those, about a trillion bucks. |
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