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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 11:28 AM Original message |
Are New Types of Reactors Needed for the U.S. Nuclear Renaissance? |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
1. No. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Did you read the article |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 01:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. NEW IPFM RESEARCH REPORT: Unsuccessful "Fast Breeder" is no solution for long-term reactor waste dis |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Do you really think this motley crew is qualified to do such an assessment? |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. (I believe that is an example of irony.) |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
3. Yes |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. According to the article |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. That isn't a permanent number |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Nobody is looking to build 50 year old designs (GenII) |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Areva is considering going back to its old Gen II designs. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Then Areva just needs to get out of the biz. The EPR has been a total failure. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. "better economies of scale" |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:36 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. A reactor isn't a single large component. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #16 |
20. It is an absurd proposition on its face to claim economy of scale savings on reactors. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. It is absurd to think they don't exist. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. I wouldn't point to the Military Industrial Complex as an example if I were you... |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #24 |
27. I think this is a case when the French example is valid to point to |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
31. Costs in France escalated, they didn't decrease. |
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OKIsItJustMe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:10 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I expect they were lower than they would have been if |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. I understand your point. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 02:11 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. At least you concede that it remains to be seen. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. you still have a reading comprehension problem. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #20 |
42. If it a fact that costs are lower when several nuclear reactors are built at once. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 09:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. That's another fabrication on your part Josh. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 03:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. There is no historical precedent for that belief. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. You mean rerferences that "explain" ultra high cost of enrichment. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. No, I mean references that cover the net energy production of the process M.Baggins favors. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. The advantage of reprocessing isn't cost or net energy. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. Not so. It is reducing waste volume while producing energy. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:58 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Reprocessing has no net gain in energy. Please show me a study that indicates it does. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:03 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Circle jerk. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:32 PM Response to Reply #28 |
35. Yeah it is a called a trade-off. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. And the energy and economic considerations go out the window. |
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bananas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-21-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. Reprocessing won't make sense even if we quadruple nuclear globally |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 08:58 AM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Thanks for the links. I have never been a big fan of reprocessing.. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. When did that become my "favored process" ? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:55 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. What the hell do you think a thorium reactor is? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Thorium reactor is a breeder reactor. That changes things. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Thorium is no better. |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
30. And where did I say that I favored Thorium reactors? |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Post 3 and 6 |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. So you don't understand what the word "not" means eh? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. Neither statement is true. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-20-10 10:27 PM Response to Original message |
38. A better question |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 02:23 AM Response to Original message |
44. Hell NO |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 06:25 AM Response to Reply #44 |
45. I agree with you. |
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Kalun D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-23-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Relevance |
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