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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:15 PM
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Water may not run uphill, but it practically flies off new surface
http://news.ufl.edu/2010/02/24/water-phobe/

Water may not run uphill, but it practically flies off new surface

Wednesday, February 24, 2010.

GAINESVILLE, Fla. — Engineering researchers have crafted a flat surface that refuses to get wet. Water droplets skitter across it like ball bearings tossed on ice.

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Spiders use their water-repelling hairs to stay dry or avoid drowning, with water spiders capturing air bubbles and toting them underwater to breathe. Potential applications for UF’s ultra-water-repellent surfaces are many, Sigmund said. When water scampers off the surface, it picks up and carries dirt with it, in effect making the surface self-cleaning. As such, it is ideal for some food packaging, or windows, or solar cells that must stay clean to gather sunlight, he said. Boat designers might coat hulls with it, making boats faster and more efficient.

Sigmund said he began working on the project about five years ago after picking up on the work of a colleague. Sigmund was experimenting with microscopic fibers when he turned to spiders, noted by biologists for at least a century for their water-repelling hairs.

As a scientist and engineer, he said, his natural tendency was to make all his fibers the same size and distance apart. But he learned that spider hairs are both long and short and variously curved and straight, forming a surface that is anything but uniform. He decided to try to mimic this random, chaotic surface using plastic hairs varying in size but averaging about 600 microns, or millionths of a meter.

The results came as a great surprise.

“Most people that publish in this field always go for these perfect structures, and we are the first to show that the bad ones are the better ones,” Sigmund said. “Of course this is a finding in a lab. This is not something you expect from theory.”

To be sure, water-repelling surfaces or treatments are already common, spanning shoe wax to caulk to car windshield treatments. Scientists have also reproduced other biologically inspired water repelling surfaces, including ones patterned after lotus leaves.

But Sigmund said the UF surface may be the most or among the most water phobic. Close-up photographs of water droplets on dime-sized plastic squares show that the droplets maintain their spherical shape, whether standing still or moving. Droplets bulge down on most other surfaces, dragging a kind of tail as they move. Sigmund said his surface is the first to shuttle droplets with no tail.

Also, unlike many water-repelling surfaces, the UF one relies entirely on the microscopic shape and patterns of the material — rather than its composition.

In other words, physics, not chemistry, is what makes it water repellent. Theoretically, that means the technique could transform even the most water-sopping materials – say, sponges – into water-shedding ones. It also means that Sigmund’s surfaces need never slough off dangerous chemicals. Provided the surface material itself is made safe, making it water repellent introduces no new risks.

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While inexpensive, it is hard to produce successful surfaces with great reliability, and different techniques need to be developed to make the surfaces in commercially available quantities and size, Sigmund said. Also, he said, more research is needed to make the surfaces hardy and resistant to damage.

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liberal N proud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:24 PM
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1. Physics, not chemistry
Sounds like a sustainable design. Doesn't need chemicals to achieve the desired result.
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MinneapolisMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:44 PM
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2. Can't wait to see the new Speedos.
n/t
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:00 PM
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4. whole body suits. Just jump in one end of pool and pop up at the other!

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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 PM
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7. You won't be swimming through the water, you will be swimming between the water. nt
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 01:48 PM
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3. "or solar cells that must stay clean to gather sunlight"
A very useful improvement if it can be made in a cost-efficient way.

The amount of water necessary to keep solar cells (or mirrors, etc) clean is a substantial concern when considering installation in hot-dry areas (where they are likely to be the most effective).
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JohnWxy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:01 PM
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5. very interesting. Self cleaning solar panels!
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-24-10 03:15 PM
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6. potential surface problems for PV applications, windows, etc....
Surfaces such as these tend to scatter light, however, rather than passing it through with maximum efficiency. In other words, they are more opaque than smooth surfaces-- windows and PV cells would have a matte finish and tend to look a little "frosted." Unless, of course, the underlying material has the same refractive index as the medium surrounding it, e.g. air, but that's difficult (or impossible in many applications).
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 12:04 PM
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8. Instead of trying to make random hairs, why not just figure out how to grow
spider skin?
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:05 PM
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9. Mmmmmove over, bacon! Here comes SpiderLean! n/t
PB
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-26-10 09:12 AM
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12. "Mom!!! I got web in my braces again!" nt
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agent46 Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:18 PM
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10. This reminds me
This reminds me of that SiFi Novel by Neil Stephenson - The Diamond Age. It's about the coming nano-tech civilization. It all starts with nano-engineered diamond fabrication. A fun read.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-25-10 11:25 PM
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11. Reportedly...
Edited on Thu Feb-25-10 11:26 PM by OKIsItJustMe
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