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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 10:25 AM
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The Earth has its own set of rules
Early in our history it didn't make any difference how we viewed our environment. We could change it, and if we didn't like what we did to it, we could move and natural processes would soon obliterate whatever we had done. Over the years, models of our relationship to the environment have been based on religious views, with the world provided for us to dominate and subdue as described in Genesis, and philosophical views, seeing wisdom and virtue in nature as described by Thoreau.

But by far our most prevalent view of nature derives from a rudimentary human desire for more. This is the basis of the economic model that currently directs our relationships with one another and with our environment. It has produced stupendous human population growth and dramatic, deleterious effects on nature. Recognizing these effects, efforts have been marshaled to change the self-serving economic model with notions of Earth "stewardship," eloquently advanced decades ago by then-Interior Secretary Stewart Udall, and, most recently, to infiltrate the economic model with "ecosystem services" by assigning monetary values to functions performed by the Earth that are beneficial to people.

All of these views are fundamentally and dangerously flawed, because all are anthropocentric. They begin and end with humans. This isn't the way the Earth works.

The Earth has its own set of rules, solidly grounded in laws of physics and chemistry and emergent principles of geology and biology. Unlike our economic model, these are not artificial constructs. They are real, and they govern. Earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, 100-year floods, massive wildfires and disease epidemics are dramatic examples of parts of nature, neither all service nor all harm, creating and destroying, and governed by rules that are indifferent to humans. Our anthropocentric economic model for interacting with the world ignores and is proving to be incompatible with Earth's rules, and is therefore on a direct collision course with them.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-mahall2-2010mar02,0,6899831.story
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 11:50 AM
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1. Golleeee. Ya mean that hoomins are not the center of the unyverse???
A lesson that many, many, many have yet to learn...

All of these views are fundamentally and dangerously flawed, because all are anthropocentric. They begin and end with humans. This isn't the way the Earth works.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:00 PM
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2. The "good news" is we won't destroy the earth with climate change.
We may make the earth inhospitable for future humans however the earth will survive. Some lifeforms will die off and others will flourish. At one point in earths history or another it was far colder and far hotter than it is today. It has far more CO2 and far less CO2 then it does today. Hell a billion years ago it was substantially more radioactive than it is now.

The earth will survive. Life will survive. Humans may not.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 12:09 PM
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3. Watch how quickly that catches on
"The Earth has its own set of rules, solidly grounded in laws of physics and chemistry and emergent principles of geology and biology. Unlike our economic model, these are not artificial constructs. They are real, and they govern. Earthquakes, tsunamis, volcanic eruptions, hurricanes, tornadoes, 100-year floods, massive wildfires and disease epidemics are dramatic examples of parts of nature, neither all service nor all harm, creating and destroying, and governed by rules that are indifferent to humans. Our anthropocentric economic model for interacting with the world ignores and is proving to be incompatible with Earth's rules, and is therefore on a direct collision course with them."

This will get nobody elected. Nor will it get us to our collective goal, which is the, http://www.ascentofhumanity.com/text.php
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hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 05:01 PM
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4. Wait? What? We have a "collective goal?"
How come nobody ever tells me these things?
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-02-10 06:27 PM
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5. Yeah, we took a vote on it. Where were you?
Instead of all this competitive stuff we voted for total conquest of nature, we are each and every one going to be emperor of the universe, any day, or real soon now.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-03-10 06:41 AM
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6. Maybe you don't talk to the right people
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3BVqIjKyJh0

Take a trip through Valhalla.
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