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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 09:57 PM
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It Would Appear That Bethany Goldblum Has Not Read Mark Z. Jacobson's Paper: Sticks With Her Career
Every few days here at E&E we have Mark Z. Jacobson's paper on how solar and wind will save us, and how nuclear energy is dead, and has been dead since Amory Lovins declared it so in 1980.

Some people, though, it appears didn't get the memo.

Take http://berkeley.academia.edu/BethanyGoldblum/Papers/118381/Indirect-determination-of-the-230Th-n-f--and-231Th-n-f--cross-sections-for-thorium-based-nuclear-energy-systems">Bethany Goldblum for instance.

She is so out of touch with the wisdom of infinitely wise wisdom bearing soothsaying wise light weight bloggers who just know that nuclear power doesn't work and is dead, that she has foolishly and distractedly published a paper in Physical Review foolishly entitled "Indirect determination of the 230Th(n,f) and 231Th(n,f) cross sections for thorium-based nuclear energy systems."

Despite reams and reams and reams and reams of information posted by anti-nuke bloggers right here at E&E for nearly a decade, proving that nuclear power is dead, kaput, completely gone, not even worth mentioning, out of business, eliminating all life on earth, finished, um, um, um, not working out, phased out, gone, no longer with us, pushing up daisies...Bethany nevertheless, foolish young woman, obtained a Ph.D. degree, with perfect grades, at the University of California at Berkeley in 2007. Then she did some post docs, winning all kinds of awards that are meaningless, since Mark Z. Jacobson has published a paper proving that all such awards are meaningless.

She needs some blogger wisdom.

Bethany's publications are obviously all refuted by the only paper you ever need to read, the one by Mark Z. Jacobson, and if you don't know which paper that is, just stick around here for a few days and presto! Like magic a lightweight blogger with no science education will produce it, causing you to lose all respect for Bethany Goldblum, if you have ever had any such respect, not that you should, since light weight bloggers clearly would object to her career choice.

With a bad career choice like this, she should, um, stock shelves at Amory Lovins' company, Walmart, with wind toys.






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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:04 PM
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1. Good looks and brains *can* go together
So there, Mark Jacobson!
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 02:18 PM
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6. Well it's not like Mark Z. Jacobson is a bad looking guy, either. I wonder if they're dating.
http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/

Probably not, although you never know, I mean James Carville married that awful woman, what's her name.

My sons have a chance to grow up to be like Bethany Goldblum, smart and good looking, mostly because they got all of their mother's genes and very few of mine.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 10:13 PM
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2. That isn't what Jacobson's paper says
He doesn't make the claim that "nuclear power is dead" as you assert. You probably forgot the actual content so here it is. As you can see, what he says is that nuclear power is a third rate choice for meeting the climate climate change, energy security and air pollution mortality problems that are associated with energy from fossil fuels.


Abstract here: http://www.rsc.org/publishing/journals/EE/article.asp?doi=b809990c

Full article for download here: http://www.stanford.edu/group/efmh/jacobson/revsolglobwarmairpol.htm


Energy Environ. Sci., 2009, 2, 148 - 173, DOI: 10.1039/b809990c

Review of solutions to global warming, air pollution, and energy security

Mark Z. Jacobson

Abstract
This paper reviews and ranks major proposed energy-related solutions to global warming, air pollution mortality, and energy security while considering other impacts of the proposed solutions, such as on water supply, land use, wildlife, resource availability, thermal pollution, water chemical pollution, nuclear proliferation, and undernutrition.

Nine electric power sources and two liquid fuel options are considered. The electricity sources include solar-photovoltaics (PV), concentrated solar power (CSP), wind, geothermal, hydroelectric, wave, tidal, nuclear, and coal with carbon capture and storage (CCS) technology. The liquid fuel options include corn-ethanol (E85) and cellulosic-E85. To place the electric and liquid fuel sources on an equal footing, we examine their comparative abilities to address the problems mentioned by powering new-technology vehicles, including battery-electric vehicles (BEVs), hydrogen fuel cell vehicles (HFCVs), and flex-fuel vehicles run on E85.

Twelve combinations of energy source-vehicle type are considered. Upon ranking and weighting each combination with respect to each of 11 impact categories, four clear divisions of ranking, or tiers, emerge.

Tier 1 (highest-ranked) includes wind-BEVs and wind-HFCVs.
Tier 2 includes CSP-BEVs, geothermal-BEVs, PV-BEVs, tidal-BEVs, and wave-BEVs.
Tier 3 includes hydro-BEVs, nuclear-BEVs, and CCS-BEVs.
Tier 4 includes corn- and cellulosic-E85.

Wind-BEVs ranked first in seven out of 11 categories, including the two most important, mortality and climate damage reduction. Although HFCVs are much less efficient than BEVs, wind-HFCVs are still very clean and were ranked second among all combinations.

Tier 2 options provide significant benefits and are recommended.

Tier 3 options are less desirable. However, hydroelectricity, which was ranked ahead of coal-CCS and nuclear with respect to climate and health, is an excellent load balancer, thus recommended.

The Tier 4 combinations (cellulosic- and corn-E85) were ranked lowest overall and with respect to climate, air pollution, land use, wildlife damage, and chemical waste. Cellulosic-E85 ranked lower than corn-E85 overall, primarily due to its potentially larger land footprint based on new data and its higher upstream air pollution emissions than corn-E85.

Whereas cellulosic-E85 may cause the greatest average human mortality, nuclear-BEVs cause the greatest upper-limit mortality risk due to the expansion of plutonium separation and uranium enrichment in nuclear energy facilities worldwide. Wind-BEVs and CSP-BEVs cause the least mortality.

The footprint area of wind-BEVs is 2–6 orders of magnitude less than that of any other option. Because of their low footprint and pollution, wind-BEVs cause the least wildlife loss.

The largest consumer of water is corn-E85. The smallest are wind-, tidal-, and wave-BEVs.

The US could theoretically replace all 2007 onroad vehicles with BEVs powered by 73000–144000 5 MW wind turbines, less than the 300000 airplanes the US produced during World War II, reducing US CO2 by 32.5–32.7% and nearly eliminating 15000/yr vehicle-related air pollution deaths in 2020.

In sum, use of wind, CSP, geothermal, tidal, PV, wave, and hydro to provide electricity for BEVs and HFCVs and, by extension, electricity for the residential, industrial, and commercial sectors, will result in the most benefit among the options considered. The combination of these technologies should be advanced as a solution to global warming, air pollution, and energy security. Coal-CCS and nuclear offer less benefit thus represent an opportunity cost loss, and the biofuel options provide no certain benefit and the greatest negative impacts.

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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-13-10 11:33 PM
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3. Well look at that
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 12:15 AM by Nederland
We didn't have to wait a few days. It magically popped up a mere 16 minutes after you posted...
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 01:08 AM
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4. Obviously someone doesn't know the word
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 01:09 AM by Confusious
Sarcasm. I had to laugh when I saw him post it.

God, some people are sooooo predictable.

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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 12:36 PM
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5. Ya gotta love magical thinking.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 07:43 PM
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7. That was dumb and disconnected
CCheney
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Apr-14-10 09:27 PM
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8. All anti-nukes have a VERY selective definition of what is and is not dumb.
Edited on Wed Apr-14-10 09:28 PM by NNadir
It's rather like their very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very selective definition of what is and is not energy waste.

I would call someone very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very dumb who can't even understand that the topic has very little to do with Dick Cheney, other than the fact that it is poking fun at other anti-science cretins, specifically light weight bloggers.

Have a nice selective attention evening, and try not to dis scientists who do science about which the anti-nuke community knows, um, zero.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-10 09:17 AM
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9. Oh, you're doing science!
I thought that you were just here to start flame wars. There is *not* a fine line between the two.
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