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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:13 PM
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Do you own a rain barrel?
I'm looking at buying 1 or 2 for my home and was looking for some feedback and possible advice. I have a couple of raised bed gardens.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:18 PM
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1. If you want a really big one...
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:09 AM
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22. Your linky is all wonky
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:35 AM
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24. Sorry. K-Mart must have changed it, or
Edited on Sat May-08-10 11:36 AM by Speck Tater
it was timed and expired or something.

Anyway, it was to a $200 above ground swimming pool with about 3,000 gallons capacity. Use it for fun, and have it available as a backup water source, or for summer garden water.

(on edit) That's roughly 60 or 70 regular sized barrels worth of water.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 11:41 AM
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25. cool
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Po_d Mainiac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:30 PM
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26. U won't be swimming in it long
Stagnant water gets pretty ripe in short order. If you treat it, your veggies ain't going to appreciate the chemicals.

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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:18 PM
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2. Yes.
I got one that you can connect to your drain spout so the water from your gutter goes into the rain barrel. Any overflow once the barrel is filled then goes out the drain spout. There is also a spigot where you can connect a garden hose. I got it last summer, used it quite a bit. Works very nicely.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:23 PM
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4. What kind of barrel?
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:34 PM
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8. Don't remember the brand name,
but it's sort of brownish/tan and I got it at Lowes (or maybe it was Home Despot) for about $80. It's a lot like this one (I think this is a new version of the one I got last year). http://www.lowes.com/pd_306222-1078-59965935_4294817848_4294937087?productId=3032158&pl=1¤tURL=/pl__4294817848_4294937087_?identifier=
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:22 PM
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3. Make your own cistern
Barrels fill up very quickly. If you have gutters and a downspout, even an average house has a LOT of collection area. One inch of rain on 1200 square feet of roof gives you 100 cubic feet of water or 750 gallons -- that's a lot of barrels or trash cans.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:28 PM
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5. Wow! I had no idea that much water is generated from a 1 inch of rain from a roof!
That's amazing. I can't afford to build a cistern.
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jemsan Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:29 PM
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6. Be careful...In at least one state they are illegal..
like Colorado
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:35 PM
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9. Link?
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:15 PM
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13. From Denver Water
http://www.denverwater.org/AboutUs/WaterLaw/FAQs/

"Q. Can I collect rainwater?

A. Capturing rainwater is an ongoing issue in Colorado, and it is not allowed if it will injure vested water rights. In 2009, the Colorado State Legislature passed two laws that carve out exemptions from the general rule.

The first law says that if you are not served by a domestic water system, such as Denver Water, you are allowed to capture rainwater as long as it is applied to uses specified in the well permit that applies to your property. The second law allows the state to participate in a study of 10 new developments to determine the impact of capturing rainwater on streams, rivers and tributary groundwater."

I don't totally understand the exemptions but it sounds like, if you're on a well, you're probably okay. Serviced by a water system, no go.
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:23 PM
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14. Thanks. That is interesting.
Infuriating, really. It sounds like they don't want anybody using free water that falls on their property if it is going to cut into their profits.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:05 PM
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18. Water rights in Colorado
... it's an amazingly dizzying subject!!

When I first moved here in '78, I had the wonderful opportunity to get to know an 82 yr old neighbor who absolutely chortled about water rights in Colorado. She said the subject had been debated and legislated since her birth and would be long after her death.

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The Croquist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 07:05 AM
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21. Doesn't it have something to do with a deal with Kansas?
I seem to remember that years ago they promised Kansas a bunch of water and regret it now. Does this sound familiar?
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 08:34 AM
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23. Doesn't ring a bell
but that doesn't mean much as I'm not well read on the subject. I did a quick google and a boatload of info popped up. Colorado's been regulating and legislating and contesting water use for a long, long time.
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elias49 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:40 PM
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17. self delete
Edited on Fri May-07-10 09:41 PM by elias49
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amerikat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:32 PM
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7. Check with the DU gardening group.
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Pryderi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:24 PM
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15. I did, but got 0 responses..
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:40 PM
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10. We have 3. Locally built. Really useful!
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ironrooster Donating Member (273 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 08:42 PM
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11. be sure purchase a food safe barrel (usually white or blue plastic) -
Edited on Fri May-07-10 08:43 PM by ironrooster
(with barrels) you can stairstep them so that when one is full, it overflows to the one below.
You will have to build supports "steps" for the barrels to rest them on - and the steps will have to
be sturdy b/c a full barrel weighs alot.

Also, have you looked into "ferrocement" - you may be able to make a 250 - 500 gal container
affordably. it's basically concrete rebar and hardware cloth with a cement overlay - very sturdy.
google it.

Sometimes scrap yards have used food industry barrels - don't pay over 25.00 for one used.

Try craiglist.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-09-10 09:58 AM
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27. ours is blue plastic!
I never thought of this, since we just use the water for the flower beds, but it does happen to be blue.

anyway +1.. another rain barrel here, homemade.
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:05 PM
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12. check with your county extension agent for more info
if they don't know anything have them contact Pima or Cochise counties in AZ - or the U of A Waterwise program. Tons of info available.

here: http://ag.arizona.edu/cochise/waterwise/

http://cals.arizona.edu/cochise/waterwise/waterharvest.html
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 09:24 PM
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16. When I retire to the Upper Midwest on a little piece of land,
I plan to have a large cistern so during hot summer weather I can water the garden without depleting any aquifers.

Just a part of my long-range pipe dream.......
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-07-10 10:33 PM
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19. It's easy to make your own
I got a food products 50 gallon barrel, a spigot for the garden hose, and another hose connection that attaches to the top of the barrel for overflow. I ran the downspout into the barrel and after cutting the downspout to length I had it ready to go. I believe it all cost about $11.00.

Do it, once you get stuff rounded up it takes very little time to set up something very serviceable and a great water saver.

I'd like to add another this summer - I'll see if I get to it.
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-08-10 01:29 AM
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20. be careful that you do not have chemicals on your roof that will get in the water
I had that experience. I wanted goldfish in my barrel but the roof is treated with anti moss chemicals that killed them. Would not want to water food crops with that.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-10-10 05:55 AM
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28. I had the opposite problem ...
... moss that washed down the drainpipe and blocked the take-off point
for the water butt ... didn't realise until happened to notice that the
butt was sounding emptier than expected after a storm ...

:shrug:
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