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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 02:11 PM
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What predicts support for nuclear power? (Hint: it isn't concern about environment)
This is drawn from published, peer reviewed research on the beliefs of the public and how those beliefs flow from values held.

1) Attitudes toward nuclear power are a result of perceived risk

2) Attitudes and risk perceptions are determined by previously held values and beliefs that serve to determine the level of trust in the nuclear industry.

3) Increased trust in the nuclear industry reduces perceived risk of nuclear power

4) Therefore, higher trust in the nuclear industry and the consequent lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power.

5) Traditional values are defined here as assigning priority to family, patriotism, and stability

6) Altruism is defined as a concern with the welfare of other humans and other species.

7) Neither trust in environmental institutions nor perceived risks from global environmental problems predict a person’s attitudes toward nuclear power.

8) Those with traditional values tend to embrace nuclear power; while those with altruistic values more often reject nuclear power.

9) Altruism is recognized as a dependable predictor of various categories of environmental concern.

10) Traditional values are associated with less concern for the environment and are unlikely to lead to pro-environmental behavioral intentions.



Here is the abstract and full list of references for the paper:
Abstract and references are intended for public use and distribution
The Future of Nuclear Power: Value Orientations and Risk Perception
Stephen C. Whitfield,1 Eugene A. Rosa,2 Amy Dan,3 and Thomas Dietz3;

Abstract
Since the turn of the 21st century, there has been a revival of interest in nuclear power. Two decades ago, the expansion of nuclear power in the United States was halted by widespread public opposition as well as rising costs and less than projected increases in demand for electricity. Can the renewed enthusiasm for nuclear power overcome its history of public resistance that has persisted for decades? We propose that attitudes toward nuclear power are a function of perceived risk, and that both attitudes and risk perceptions are a function of values, beliefs, and trust in the institutions that influence nuclear policy.

Applying structural equation models to data from a U.S. national survey, we find that increased trust in the nuclear governance institutions reduces perceived risk of nuclear power and together higher trust and lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power. Trust in environmental institutions and perceived risks from global environmental problems do not predict attitudes toward nuclear power. Values do predict attitudes: individuals with traditional values have greater support for, while those with altruistic values have greater opposition to, nuclear power. Nuclear attitudes do not vary by gender, age, education, income, or political orientation, though nonwhites are more supportive than whites. These findings are consistent with, and provide an explanation for, a long series of public opinion polls showing public ambivalence toward nuclear power that persists even in the face of renewed interest for nuclear power in policy circles.


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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 02:15 PM
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1. Additional relevant information:
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 02:16 PM by kristopher
Messaging strategy for nuclear power (in their own words)

From presentation "Understanding Public Opinion: A Key to the Nuclear Renaissance"
by Dr. Raul A. Deju Sept. 2009
Chief Operating Officer
EnergySolutions, Inc.

I'm sure this "message" is a familiar one to DU/EE readers. This comes on the tail end of a rather dismal assessment of public support for nuclear power. It is a given that by "sensible energy policy" the author is referring to one that includes the nuclear power that will produce the waste his company can profit from.

...how do we use the results of public opinion to develop a sensible energy policy

• Leadership and unity of message need to be the top priority.

• Acceptable messages need to cover the diversity of group thinking.

• Developing confidence on having a solution to nuclear waste issues and non-proliferation requires leadership messages and social support more than scientific support.


And what are those "acceptable messages"?


Energy Messages
• Nuclear and renewable energy need to be tied into a combined offering.
• Concerns regarding energy security and energy independence can only
be solved through the combination of energy efficiency, renewable
standards, and nuclear energy.


"Understanding Public Opinion: A Key to the Nuclear Renaissance"
Dr. Raul A. Deju Sept. 2009
Chief Operating Officer
EnergySolutions, Inc.

EnergySolutions is one of the world’s largest processors of low level waste (LLW), and is the largest nuclear waste company in the United States...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EnergySolutions


In fact, if we build nuclear power it *actively* discourages BOTH renewable energy policies and development AND energy efficiency policies and efforts because they undermine of the economics of nuclear power.

It is a real clear economic choice folks - if you advocate for nuclear power you are undercutting the efforts to build our renewables, if you support renewable energy and energy efficiency, you are denying nuclear power the market share they MUST have to be viable.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 02:27 PM
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2. Maybe they also like radioactive wildlife...
Radioactive rabbit trapped at Hanford Nuclear Reservation
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/Ian%20David/8280




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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 02:46 PM
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3. This again?

NNadir actually looked at the article and proved you interpreted it wrong.

Insanity, doing something over and over again expecting different results.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 03:28 PM
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4. I don't think he expects different results
The point is merely to level yet again the not-so-veiled charge that "pro-nukes are closet crypto-fascists", brought to you by the leading E/E cut-n-paste warrior.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 03:38 PM
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6. The truth is what the truth is -
...if the shoe fits, wear it. The study is valid.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:10 PM
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9. We're not arguing whether the study is valid
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 06:10 PM by Confusious
We're saying your interpretation is not. (i.e. iz bullzhit)
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 04:27 AM
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24. There is no interpretation - it is straight from the article
Let's compare:
1) Attitudes toward nuclear power are a result of perceived risk

Authors: "We propose that attitudes toward nuclear power are a function of perceived risk"


2) Attitudes and risk perceptions are determined by previously held values and beliefs that serve to determine the level of trust in the nuclear industry.

Authors: "both attitudes and risk perceptions are a function of values, beliefs, and trust in the institutions that influence nuclear policy."


3) Increased trust in the nuclear industry reduces perceived risk of nuclear power

Authors: "we find that increased trust in the nuclear governance institutions reduces perceived risk of nuclear power"


4) Therefore, higher trust in the nuclear industry and the consequent lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power.

Authors: "together higher trust and lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power"


5) Traditional values are defined here as assigning priority to family, patriotism, and stability

Authors: "Traditional values—assigning importance to family, patriotism, and stability" (p.427)


6) Altruism is defined as a concern with the welfare of other humans and other species.

Authors: "Altruism—a concern with the welfare of other humans and other species" (p.427)

7) Neither trust in environmental institutions nor perceived risks from global environmental problems predict a person’s attitudes toward nuclear power.

Authors: "Trust in environmental institutions and perceived risks from global environmental problems do not predict attitudes toward nuclear power."


8) Those with traditional values tend to embrace nuclear power; while those with altruistic values more often reject nuclear power.

Authors: "Values do predict attitudes: individuals with traditional values have greater support for, while those with altruistic values have greater opposition to, nuclear power."


9) Altruism is recognized as a dependable predictor of various categories of environmental concern.

Authors: "Altruism...has been a strong and consistent predictor of various measures of environmental concern." (p.427)


10) Traditional values are associated with less concern for the environment and are unlikely to lead to pro-environmental behavioral intentions.

Authors: "Those with strong traditional values typically exhibit less concern about the environment and are less likely to express pro-environmental behavioral intentions." (p.427)


Where is my "interpretation bullzhit"?

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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 04:26 PM
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7. I forgot to ask...
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 04:29 PM by kristopher
When you say that the OP is the equivalent of an allegation that "pro-nukes are closet crypto-fascists", that means that you interpret "traditional values" as being most closely associated with fascism.

How do you make that connection?

I mean, what cannot be denied is that support for expansion of nuclear power is a firm plank in the Republican Party platform, and that what little support for nuclear power that exists within the Democratic party is mostly as a realpolitik tradeoff with Republicans in order to get support for renewable policies.

But where do you find the window for bringing fascism into the picture?
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 09:14 PM
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12. It's called "hyperbole..."
Yeah, I was exaggerating... but you just made my real point for me, which was that you seem to equate support for nuclear power with Republican politics, which would implicitly reduce the legitimacy of the viewpoint in a Democratic forum.

I don't see why anyone's view on nuclear power should depend in any way on the result of the study, whoever is correct about its interpretation, because the relevant facts are about the economic, environmental and other "real world" impacts of any energy technology and not whatever correlations one might be able to generate between support for a technology and any personal characteristics not directly related to expertise.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 09:45 PM
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13. Are you kidding? Support for nuclear power is in the BEDROCK of Republican politics!
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 09:46 PM by kristopher
It is a solid plank in the platform of the Republican party precisely because they are more apt to discount the environmental consequences in favor of an easy-to-grasp solution to energy security concerns. It is the same support that lies behind both support for more oil exploration and building more coal plants.

That doesn't mean that there are no Dems that support nuclear power, new coal plants and drill-baby-drill energy policies; I readily admit there are.

However, what IS NOT plausible is that people motivated primarily by environmental concerns are strong proponents of nuclear power.

This is a recognized problem for the nuclear INDUSTRY and are very explicit both in identifying it and specifying how to address this rejection by those with strong environmental values.

That strategy is twofold and, as it is a propaganda effort instead of a true expression of the best science, the two approaches are inherently contradictory. The first approach involves linking nuclear power with renewables in any way possible, but primarily through the avenue of carbon reductions. The second involves maligning renewable energy as a viable alternative to fossil fuels. I would characterize it overall as a "co-opt and replace" strategy.

But the fact is that when nuclear proponents are proclaiming the environmental benefits of nuclear, the chances are very, very good that their primary reason for supporting nuclear has little to nothing to do with the environment, and everything to do with the same values that underpin support for more coal and oil. The environment is nothing more than a convenient ploy they think will help them gain their goal.

This duplicity is extremely easy to spot because of the regular false and unfounded attacks on renewables; which is something that simply cannot be supported by a value system where environmental values prevail.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:08 PM
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8. Wait for him to bump it up 70,000 times & post 199,987 copies of Mark V. Jacobsen's paper.
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 06:08 PM by NNadir
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 03:37 PM
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5. No, he didn't.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:13 PM
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10. Where is your proof he made false statements?
Edited on Mon Nov-08-10 06:27 PM by Confusious
I see you doing here all the time. i.e. you: There is no such study. someone p0wns you by showing the study. ( what you did was a WHOLE lot worse then getting a link title wrong.)

This is a nice quote:
It is interesting to note that the most transparently dishonest people are the first to accuse others of dishonesty.

All i see is him complaining about crappy gearboxes.

More to the point, where is your proof he made false statements about this crap THE LAST TIME you posted it?
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Dead_Parrot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 06:30 PM
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11. "A lie repeated thousands of times becomes a truth."
Goebbels would have killed for cut-and-paste. Not that didn't do that anyway, obviously.

Hey, do I win a Godwin? :)
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-08-10 11:04 PM
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14. Spam repeated thousands of times is still
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-14-10 03:59 AM
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31. Thanks for your participation
Your input is always appreciated.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:06 AM
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16. NNadir actually accessed the paper you are misrepresenting and disproved your dishonesty.
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 01:06 AM by joshcryer
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:38 AM
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17. Do you mean the Nnadir that is willing to overtly falsify information to deceive people?
His remarks at your link are as valid as his observation that Vestas is a "piece of shit dangerous fossil fuel company" and proceed from exactly the same motivations.

Vestas calls itself in its company reports, the Vestas OIL, GAS and WIND company.

Posted by NNadir
on Sat Oct-16-10 09:29 PM

Vestas, OIL, GAS and wind company.

They know what they are, even if mathematically illiterate purveyors of self delusion and indifference don't.

It's notable that this piece of shit dangerous fossil fuel company suffered huge losses in the middle of the decade for being required to meet five year warranties on their worthless hunks of metal.

Their "solution" to this problem with their reliability did not lead them to improve the crappy gearboxes on their subsidized garbage, but rather to reduce the warranty period from five years to two years.

It is interesting to note that the most transparently dishonest people are the first to accuse others of dishonesty.

Have a nice day.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=261737&mesg_id=262014


They were never in fossil fuel, they started in engineering
Posted by muriel_volestrangler
on Sun Oct-17-10 06:17 AM

NNadir was talking a load of complete bollocks about 'oil and gas'.

# 1898 - Vestas founded by H.S. Hansen, a blacksmith, in the small town of Lem in Denmark. He and his son, Peder Hansen, manufactured steel windows for industrial buildings.
# 1945 - Peder Hansen established the company VEstjyskSTålteknik A/S, whose name was shortened to Vestas. The new company, which initially made household appliances, started to produce agricultural equipment.
# 1970s - During the second oil crisis, Vestas began to examine the potential of the wind turbine as an alternative source of clean energy.
# 1979 - Vestas delivered the first wind turbines. The industry experienced a genuine boom at the start of the 1980s, but in 1986 Vestas was forced to suspend payments because the market in the United States was destroyed due to the expiration of a special tax legislation that provided advantageous conditions for the establishment of wind turbines.

http://www.vestas.com/en/about-vestas/profile/vestas-brief-history.aspx

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x261737#262053


No, you are very, very wrong; they have NEVER been a fossil fuel company
Posted by muriel_volestrangler on Sun Oct-17-10 06:14 AM

Vestas is a wind turbine company. It does not sell oil or gas. It never has. What it says, in one part of its website, is "Wind, Oil and Gas is Vestas’ vision, which expresses the ambition of making wind an energy source on a par with fossil fuels." So, they want to be as big as the huge oil and gas companies that supply so much of the world's energy. That's where the 'oil and gas' phrase comes from.

I realise that you're hoping no-one will check to see what your link says, because you're counting on them thinking "yet another boring piece of crap from NNadir, why bother looking?", but you are being highly misleading.

It is not a fossil fuel company. Your claim is incorrect, wrong and misleading. You have the gall to accuse others of dishonesty in the same post. You have no shame.


http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x261737#262052

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 02:33 AM
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18. He seemed to have convinced a lot of intelligent people in that thread, that you were lying.
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:15 AM
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19. Oh no! Another of your famous "that's been debunked" pronouncements. What shall I do?
Suppose you cite specific instances where my summary is in error.
I'll be very happy to compare the OP to the article in as much detail as you wish.

But just a point we can establish right here and now; an abstract is the AUTHORS' INTERPRETATION of what are the significant points of their research - got that?

Now let's compare:
1) Attitudes toward nuclear power are a result of perceived risk

Authors: "We propose that attitudes toward nuclear power are a function of perceived risk"


2) Attitudes and risk perceptions are determined by previously held values and beliefs that serve to determine the level of trust in the nuclear industry.

Authors: "both attitudes and risk perceptions are a function of values, beliefs, and trust in the institutions that influence nuclear policy."


3) Increased trust in the nuclear industry reduces perceived risk of nuclear power

Authors: "we find that increased trust in the nuclear governance institutions reduces perceived risk of nuclear power"


4) Therefore, higher trust in the nuclear industry and the consequent lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power.

Authors: "together higher trust and lower risk perceptions predict positive attitudes toward nuclear power"


5) Traditional values are defined here as assigning priority to family, patriotism, and stability

Authors: "Traditional values—assigning importance to family, patriotism, and stability" (p.427)


6) Altruism is defined as a concern with the welfare of other humans and other species.

Authors: "Altruism—a concern with the welfare of other humans and other species" (p.427)

7) Neither trust in environmental institutions nor perceived risks from global environmental problems predict a person’s attitudes toward nuclear power.

Authors: "Trust in environmental institutions and perceived risks from global environmental problems do not predict attitudes toward nuclear power."


8) Those with traditional values tend to embrace nuclear power; while those with altruistic values more often reject nuclear power.

Authors: "Values do predict attitudes: individuals with traditional values have greater support for, while those with altruistic values have greater opposition to, nuclear power."


9) Altruism is recognized as a dependable predictor of various categories of environmental concern.

Authors: "Altruism...has been a strong and consistent predictor of various measures of environmental concern." (p.427)


10) Traditional values are associated with less concern for the environment and are unlikely to lead to pro-environmental behavioral intentions.

Authors: "Those with strong traditional values typically exhibit less concern about the environment and are less likely to express pro-environmental behavioral intentions." (p.427)



Knock yourself out.
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 04:19 AM
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20. Less trust in nuclear organizations and lower education predict greater perceived risk of nuclear
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 03:13 PM
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22. No, "those with altruistic values have greater opposition to nuclear power"
It is very clearly stated in the abstract.
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txlibdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:22 AM
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25. Now THAT'S resilience
When you're proven wrong again and again and again... yet you continue posting the same incorrect statements again and again and again...

You go, Kristopher Koal-Man. Mr. Coal strikes again. Instead of the "Z" for Zoro, he has a "C" for the coal industry he defends so fervently!
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 10:59 AM
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26. Drop the BS and show specifically where anyone has "proven" the study wrong.
Edited on Thu Nov-11-10 11:00 AM by kristopher
Specific quotes are wonderful because they show your point. If you, like the others can not provide a specific rebuttal but instead just make repeated unsubstantiated claims, it becomes pretty obvious you HAVE no basis for your claims.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=264407&mesg_id=264514

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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-11-10 04:24 PM
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27. Still waiting...
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-13-10 02:57 PM
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30. tick tock tick tock
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kristopher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:28 AM
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29. I also meant to point out...
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 06:33 AM by kristopher
...that the abstract specifically refutes your statement:

Values do predict attitudes: individuals with traditional values have greater support for, while those with altruistic values have greater opposition to, nuclear power. Nuclear attitudes do not vary by gender, age, education, income, or political orientation...


What may be confusing you is that the study uses a lot more data than what nuclear fans like to use (some may say the nuclear fans like to cherry pick their sample); therefore, you may have seen outliers or results based on deceptively worded questions that *appear* to contradict the results of the study.

Take for example the Gallup poll that is very, very popular with nuclear supporters. There are probably hundreds of polls that ask a clear, pointed question like this:
A) "In general, would you favor or oppose building more nuclear power plants at this time?"

However when you phrase the question as below you are eliciting different data from the respondents:
B) "Overall, do you strongly favor, somewhat favor, somewhat oppose, or strongly oppose the use of nuclear energy as one of the ways to provide electricity for the U.S.?""


It is a plus to break down the support, in my opinion as both forced choice (good/bad, yes/no) and gradation of support data is useful for getting a completely picture of public thinking.

However, the meaning of question B is dramatically different than A because of the tail of the question specifying exactly WHAT is being supported or opposed.

It is obvious that "building more nuclear power plants at this time" is a different question than "the use of nuclear energy as one of the ways to provide electricity for the U.S."

In spite of that, the nuclear industry promotes the use of poll question B in discussions about whether people support new build. So I feel confident you may have seen something you *think* supports your claims, but the study in the OP is a far more reliable source and it delves much deeper than what you'll find at "Atomic Insights" or some other nuclear webring blog.

There is one additional area that might be confusing some who have responded - what does "predictor" mean?

There is ample evidence that Republicans support nuclear power in far larger numbers than do Dems. Yet the study stipulates that "political orientation" is NOT a predictor. That's because enough Repubs reject nuclear to make the confidence interval far to low to qualify as much more than a pretty good guess.

The statistical results of the study show that political orientation is a bit more correlated to support/opposition than education is, but the difference between then and the results for those variable themselves are nothing but noise compared to what you see related to values and trust (or not) in the nuclear industry.

Which begs the question, why *do* you have so much trust in the nuclear industry? What makes you comfortable with them as an information source when you reject similarly qualified science from say, the fossil fuel industry?





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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 01:01 AM
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15. What predicts that this will be locked?
Edited on Tue Nov-09-10 01:02 AM by joshcryer
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 04:53 AM
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28. *Sigh*
(Anything more would contravene the "Interfering with forum moderation" category.)
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-09-10 05:41 AM
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Extreme group insult aimed at all or some DU members:
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