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Fledermaus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:14 PM Original message |
Providing all Global Energy with Wind, Water, and Solar Power, |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:15 PM Response to Original message |
1. It's not "strange" at all |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:24 PM Response to Reply #1 |
30. 70% of those hydro plants are already in place. |
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drm604 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:17 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'm concerned about those 270 new hydroelectric plants. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 05:42 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Not just 270 new hydro plants |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
7. That's the equivalent of 175 Hoover Dams or about 20 Three Gorges Dams |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
14. I thought we'd tapped practically every location for hydro? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:06 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Yes we have. No he hasn't... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. See post 20 |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
34. You know that assertion is false. |
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XemaSab (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Original message |
4. The deets: |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:43 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. My favorite part: |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:21 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Sounds like Mark Z is leaving himself an escape hatch |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
21. It is a good section - when read in its totality |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:12 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Yes, but Jacobson says that the thorium fuel cycle reduces poliferation risk, which is something... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. The pronuclear posters have touted thorium as "the answer" to proliferation |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:26 PM Response to Reply #28 |
31. Nope, Jacobson agrees that thorium is poliferation resistant. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 07:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. What's even more amusing is that he pretends to discuss lifecycle emissions of nuclear... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Oh snap, it's all so clear now: |
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wtmusic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:39 AM Response to Reply #6 |
12. That's one of the most ignorant statements he's ever made. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. He does point out local ecosystems the paragraph before that. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:11 PM Response to Reply #13 |
24. You mean the "waste heat contribution" is offensive to nuclear power proponents... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. No, even CSP would have this problem, but CSP would solve it with molten salt and brayton cycle... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Bullshit. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 05:22 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Everything in your post is substanceless. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 02:32 PM Response to Reply #4 |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
8. This again. 40% of global gross capital formation for 20 years. During a recession. |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 04:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
16. Even out of a recession with unheard of China-like growth we couldn't afford 40% GCF. |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #8 |
33. Ack! Yes, it's this again. 20th century thinking remains undead. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. Wow!!!!!!!!!! MARK V. JACOBSEN IS A GOD!! Like most anti-nukes.... |
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Dogmudgeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
10. Construction cost: $100 TRILLION |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:06 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Wow, so much ownage. But yeah, $100 trillion = 300 Apollo's or 50 WWII's. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. Now that's just *NOT* *FAIR*! |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:51 AM Response to Reply #10 |
18. $5 trillion/year. I know that Ohio spends billions per year on electrical and gas energy |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:06 PM Response to Reply #18 |
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