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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:24 PM Original message |
Chinese Government Approves 4 More New Nuclear Reactors. |
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Mark Maker (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
1. So while the Chinese invest in safe, reliable and clean nuclear |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:41 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Basically, you've summed the situation up nicely, n/t |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 06:47 AM Response to Reply #2 |
13. Oil fired plants? You are both rolling in the bull shit. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:29 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Why don't you email this highly intelligent remark to the Chinese gov't. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:03 AM Response to Reply #14 |
16. 1% of US electricity is produced from petroleum products |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:24 PM Response to Reply #16 |
23. Well, that makes petroleum vastly more important to electricity than solar. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:22 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. dumbell nonsense |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:22 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. For more than 10 years you've been doing soothsaying. Now it's "by 2013?" |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. You hate the people in the E/E forum, so you insult them |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 06:51 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Yeah, there are very insulting people on E&E. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. I'm not talking to you |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 08:57 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. Good for you. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:15 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. . |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. Send them the picture too. I'm sure they'll very impressed. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 09:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
15. The delusion is nuclear power |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 09:45 AM Response to Reply #1 |
44. Welcome to DU! Sorry that I have to disagree about renewable energy sources |
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Newest Reality (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-05-11 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
3. I know we are hungry, hungry, hungry |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. So called "Nuclear Waste" is largely an imaginary problem. China's reactor fleet |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #4 |
9. Just like Chinese drywall, they will have a disaster. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:10 PM Response to Reply #9 |
37. So oil wells don't blow out, coal mines don't collapse and tailings dams... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:24 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. Sure all of those things happen - which is why nuclear is so problematic |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:21 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. If you approach "safe" and "green" as absolutes, then NOTHING... |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:35 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Your statements are false. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 10:37 AM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Um, if we don't put nuke plants in the middle of cities they can't kill... |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:06 PM Response to Reply #46 |
52. This is why I advocate non-pressurized salt cooled reactors that cannot blow up. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. And what would those be? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:09 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Your post needs to add this: Logical Fallacy Alert ! ! ! |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:11 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. You do realize you are quoting from people trying to make money on thorium, right? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:15 PM Response to Reply #59 |
61. People make money off of Coal, gasoline, pesticides, plastics containing BPA, etc., etc., etc. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:22 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Probably does but won't admit it |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:39 PM Response to Reply #63 |
68. You think Kirk Sorenson wants to "make money from thorium"? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:53 PM Response to Reply #68 |
69. You mean the one hawking thorium reactors |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:36 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. Yes, but I am having a hard time seeing how it's going to make him money. |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:54 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. No harm done |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. ??? |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:12 PM Response to Reply #54 |
60. Where are they being developed now? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. Sounds like more pie in the sky thinking to me |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:00 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. Again with the Appeal to Tradition -- you forget your history my friend |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. You went there |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:39 PM Response to Reply #71 |
75. Hold onto your hat: I agree with you about fusion |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:40 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. You're a good sport |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:05 AM Response to Reply #4 |
20. "There are NO fission products which are not valuable" - what horseshit |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 09:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
39. One of the biggest parts of commercial fuel waste is plutonium. |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 12:19 AM Response to Reply #39 |
40. And if a frog had wings it wouldn't bump its bum. |
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TheMadMonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 08:49 AM Response to Reply #40 |
43. If we fail to grow up at least this much as a people, we might as well party... |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 10:48 AM Response to Reply #39 |
47. That's why Nuclear Fuel Services - the only commercial US spent fuel reprcessor - went bankrupt |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
21. "There are NO fission products which are not valuable" - what horseshit |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 10:24 AM Response to Reply #4 |
45. Speaking of Thorium as a substitute for Uranium fuel in existing nuclear reactors |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 04:37 PM Response to Reply #45 |
50. Thorium doesn't eliminate the issue of proliferation. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:01 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. duplicate post delete |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Your argument just doesn't hold water in the real world |
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kristopher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. Yes it does. |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:32 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. No it doesn't |
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Mark Maker (168 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:38 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. Eventually there will be no "waste" |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Ummm the volume of high level waste increases with reprocessing |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:37 PM Response to Reply #17 |
55. Ha! Where did you get that tidbit of wisdom? |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 06:48 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. In other words it doesn't jib with what you've been saying |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:21 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. In other words, just saying something doesn't make it true |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 08:26 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. BOO |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:08 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. thanks for the laugh |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-10-11 09:30 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Peace |
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Confusious (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-08-11 11:29 AM Response to Reply #3 |
33. Hah! Thats funny. " Peak Nuclear" |
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saras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:06 AM Response to Original message |
5. Looks like they're working on their population problem |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:08 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Their reactors are some of the best performers in the world. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:43 AM Response to Reply #6 |
8. LOL - Chinese Drywall. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 12:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Well the Chevy Vega had very little to do with the Voyager space craft. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 01:09 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. True, but my guess is they knew how to make drywall properly but chose to skim money. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:28 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Well then, I guess all Chinese look alike then, eh? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:34 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. Corruption has nothing to do with race. |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 08:01 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. Thanks for sharing. |
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Nederland (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:01 AM Response to Reply #8 |
19. Yeah, those Chinese suck at everything |
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AdHocSolver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 03:33 AM Response to Original message |
12. China is going nuclear, not because it is good technology, but because it is profitable. |
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miyazaki (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
22. Well you got one thing right, yes, they are gonna make a profit, when |
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NNadir (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-06-11 08:27 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Um, maybe, they'll have export controls. It may be hard for them to generate empathy for |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-07-11 12:42 AM Response to Reply #12 |
29. China is hedging on all power sources, they're being intelligent, they're building wind... |
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txlibdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 06:57 PM Response to Reply #29 |
48. A lot of truth to your post, also for every new nuclear power plant |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-09-11 08:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. They're also pioneering liquefied/gassified coal, which is a bit cleaner than regular coal... |
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