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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:26 AM
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Why Are Americans So Ill-Informed on the Topic of Climate Change?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=why-are-americans-so-ill

Why Are Americans So Ill-Informed on the Topic of Climate Change?

Scientists and journalists debate why Americans still resist the consensus among research organizations that humans are warming the globe

By Robin Lloyd | February 23, 2011

As glaciers melt and island populations migrate from shores to escape rising seas, many scientists remain baffled as to why the research consensus on human-induced climate change remains contentious in the U.S.

The frustration revealed itself during a handful of sessions at the annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Washington, D.C., this past weekend, and it came to a peak during a Friday session, “Science without borders and media unbounded.”

Near the session’s conclusion, Massachusetts Institute of Technology climate scientist Kerry Emanuel asked a panel of journalists why the media continues to cover anthropogenic climate change as a controversy or debate, when in fact it is a consensus among such organizations as the American Geophysical Union, American Institute of Physics, American Chemical Society, American Meteorological Association, National Research Council and the national academies of more than two dozen countries.

"You haven't persuaded the public," replied Elizabeth Shogren of National Public Radio. Emanuel immediately countered, smiling and pointing at Shogren, "No, YOU haven't." Scattered applause followed in the audience of mostly scientists, with one heckler saying aloud, "That's right. Kerry said it."

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rocktivity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:39 AM
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1. For the same reason why the corporate persons have been so resistant to it
Fixing it would cut into to their profits.

Follow the money, and you'll rarely go wrong.

:headbang:
rocktivity
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cprise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 06:38 PM
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10. And the corporate media are part of the same Wall St.
...extended family. In the end, its the same people that have to be catered-to no matter what old school industry you're in.

Here's my comment in the thread about Canadian perception of AGW:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=115x275818#275844

The US corp media hammered the reputations of the real scientists, while not holding the deniers accountable at all... A total free ride for the Exxon/Teabagger set.

The media's attitude took on this sort of "Oh, have they found the achilles heal of the scientists this week?" dimension as if there had to be something wrong that would at least make their claims muddled and "controversial". And sure enough they found something that worked. But the only thing that allowed the media to keep plugging away with the false 'controversy' was their refusal to hold the other side accountable in the same way, their precocious Exxon-Koch-fueled white little darlings; The ones who, at worst, are making those oh-so-understandable "mistakes".

The right wing operatives get a pass in the media. THAT'S why they can't convince the public. That's why ACORN was taken down. That's why we live increasingly in a klepto police state.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:03 AM
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2. Because of the fucking silly label "global warming"
..that means every mouth-breathing barroom troglodyte thinks he can get one over on those effete "book-smart" ivory tower types every time it gets a bit chilly outside by a profanity-laden tirade that "proves" it's bullshit, while all his sycophants nod their road-atlas veined heads in chuckling agreement and the naive young staff take it all in as gospel.

I've seen that scene in all honesty hundreds of times. It's amazing how resistant it is to correction. I don't expect to get through to the troglodytes, who shut down all hearing to facts not based on their own narrow experience in prideful ignorance, but I have little success in convincing even their listeners.

MEMO TO SCIENTISTS AND SCIENCE WRITERS: Never, not *ever* allow a complex scientific phenomenon or theory to be given unchallenged a vernacular name, however accurate when thoroughly understood, that appears to contradict the personal experience or worldview of the masses. They are called the masses because they outnumber you, or your interested and at least minimally-informed audience, by hundreds if not thousands to one. You will never convince them of a "big bang" that is not like an explosion on Walker, Texas Ranger or "macroevolution" (a double airquote warranted perhaps) that does not mean momma gorilla gives birth to baby human, or yes indeed a "global warming" that not only allows for cold snaps but actually exacerbates them.
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wtmusic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:01 AM
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4. Got a better one?
Yes, a label is necessary.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:57 AM
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6. global climate shift? global climate unrest? exacerbation? upheaval? take your pick. nt
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:32 PM
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8. Don’t you know what that would do?
The “skeptics” already love to suggest that any change of terminology (e.g. using the phrase “Climate Change” instead of “Global Warming”) is tantamount to admitting that the whole thing is a hoax.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/09/16/white-house-global-warming-global-climate-disruption/
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 11:05 AM
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5. Nah… it’s not the phrase
In my opinion the “main stream media” has to stop with the “http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_balance">false balance” and “FOX News” should be restrained from lying.

Honestly, the FCC is policing dirty words, but not out-and-out falsehoods being passed off as "News!?"

http://mediamatters.org/blog/201102100007

FOX NEWS INSIDER: “Stuff Is Just Made Up”

February 10, 2011 7:20 am ET by Eric Boehlert

Asked what most viewers and observers of Fox News would be surprised to learn about the controversial cable channel, a former insider from the world of Rupert Murdoch was quick with a response: “I don’t think people would believe it’s as concocted as it is; that stuff is just made up.”

Indeed, a former Fox News employee who recently agreed to talk with Media Matters confirmed what critics have been saying for years about Murdoch’s cable channel. Namely, that Fox News is run as a http://mediamatters.org/columns/200910130008">purely partisan operation, virtually every news story is actively spun by the staff, its primary goal is to prop up Republicans and knock down Democrats, and that staffers at Fox News http://mediamatters.org/research/201012210005">routinely operate without the http://mediamatters.org/research/200910190025">slightest regard for http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/201012230002">fairness or http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012230007">fact checking.



In 2010, all sorts of evidence tumbled out to confirm that fact, like the http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012090003">recently leaked emails from inside Fox News, in which a top editor instructed his newsroom staffers (not just the opinion show hosts) to slant the news when reporting on key stories such as http://mediamatters.org/blog/201012150004">climate change and health care reform.



The former insider admits to being perplexed in late 2009 when the Obama White House called out Murdoch’s operation as http://mediamatters.org/columns/200910270002">not being a legitimate new source, only to have major Beltway http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910290007">media players rush http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910180006">to the aid of Fox News and http://mediamatters.org/blog/200910200008">admonish the White House for http://mediamatters.org/rd?to=http%3A%2F%2Fusatoday.printthis.clickability.com%2Fpt%2Fcpt%3Faction%3Dcpt%26title%3DKeeping%2Bthe%2BFox%2Bout%2Bof%2Bthe%2BWhite%2BHouse%2B-%2BUSATODAY.com%26expire%3D%26urlID%3D412657592%26fb%3DY%26url%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.usatoday.com%2Fnews%2Fopinion%2Fcolumnist%2Fraasch%2F2009-10-14-common-ground_N.htm%26p">daring to criticize the cable channel.

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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 12:00 PM
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7. another problem - one that broadcasts the same ignorance. But giving it a poorly understood name
allows such propaganda to be seen as true. If it had always been referred to as "global weather upheaval" or something not striking idiots as unidirectional it would be much harder to disparage in quick soundbites to the lowest common denominator - Fox's most powerful weapon.
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OKIsItJustMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 01:40 PM
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9. "global weather upheaval?" really?
Edited on Wed Feb-23-11 01:40 PM by OKIsItJustMe
OK, so, now we have to talk about the difference between “weather” and “climate.”

Changing terminology really won’t help. “Global weather http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/upheaval">upheaval” implies a sudden, dramatic change.

“Hey, the weather doesn’t seem so bad to me. Where’s that ‘upheaval’ you were talking about?”
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 10:38 AM
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3. the medium is the message. perception is reality
and as of now the perception the media sells is that climate change is false and made up.
The reason the country is so fucked up is that media is so fucked up.
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Ready4Change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 01:24 PM
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11. Two words.
Fox News.
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 02:53 PM
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12. You are all missing the point!
Everybody likes technology and the scientists that make it possible when they are delivering the Wii to play games on or a hand held access to the internet. People love their cell phones.

When scientists that are just as knowledgeable tell them that they need to quit squandering gasoline on unnecessary high power vehicles and quit wasting energy, they don't want to hear about it and will latch on to any argument to show that it ain't so. It disables any remnant of intelligent, reasonable behavior.
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pintobean Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 03:52 PM
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13. "You haven't persuaded the public"
After a couple of decades of over-hype and predictions that didn't come true, topped off with climategate and IPCC retractions, blaming journalists seems ridiculous. Not to mention, blaming every deviation from normal weather on global warming. Once bitten, twice shy.
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