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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 04:55 PM
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We've done a great job with solar energy in California in the last 14 years!
California Electrical Energy Generation, 1997 to 2009 Total Production by Resource Type (in gigawatt hours)


1997 1998 1999 2000 2001 2002 2003 2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009**

Solar 810 839 838 860 836 851 759 741 660 616 668 733 846


http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/electricity/electricity_generation.html
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Southerner Donating Member (57 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:11 PM
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1. 0.2% of the total power generated is solar
Is that a great job?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:14 PM
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Fledermaus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 05:46 PM
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3.  Most electricity from PV is not counted into the total electricity production of the utility compan
Most electricity from PV is not counted into the total electricity production of the utility companies as the solar panels are mounted on individual homes or businesses.

http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/renewables/solar/index.html
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:20 PM
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4. Yup - adding just grid-connected PV doubles the 2007 "total" in Xemasab's post
Adding just grid-connected PV doubles the 2007 "total" in Xemasab's post:
http://energyalmanac.ca.gov/renewables/solar/pv.html

Electricity produced by solar photovoltaic (PV) systems surpassed solar thermal electricity in installed capacity in 2008. The cumulative installed capacity reached about 440 megawatts (MW) at the end of 2008, eclipsing the 354 MW of solar thermal. Assuming each system installed kW produced 1,500 kWh, the California PV systems produced 661,500,000 kWh (661.5 GWh) of electricity. That's nearly as much as the 675 GWh of electricity by solar thermal in 2007.



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Nederland Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 07:44 PM
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5. I wonder
Assuming each system installed kW produced 1,500 kWh...

I wonder if that is a good assumption. Looking at the numbers in their charts, they say that the total installed capacity is 449,216 kW. For that amount of installed capacity to generate 661,500,000 kWh of electricity, each system would have to be producing it's nameplate output for 1472 hours every year, or on average ~4 hours a day. Is that realistic, even in sunny California?
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:50 PM
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7. And 2x the amount in my post is what, exactly?
:shrug:
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:00 AM
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9. It's exponential growth - and it's probably more than doubled since then
Edited on Fri Feb-25-11 12:02 AM by bananas
the Bush-Cheney recesssion may have slowed it slightly,
but it's doubling about every 2-3 years,
and there's no good reason for it not to continue.
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 12:50 AM
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10. You have a link for this?
:shrug:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 09:36 PM
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6. What is your point?
missing a smilie?
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-24-11 11:34 PM
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8. Smilies tend to be more in the anti-nuke oeuvre.
Along with dipshit parenthetical comments and a complete lack of understanding of graphs and data tables.

But thanks for playing. :)
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 07:23 AM
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11. I didn't ask you, Systematic Chaos .
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 09:10 PM
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13. No, you just asked publicly and I responded publicly.
:woohoo:
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:06 PM
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14. and made an * out of yourself
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 10:08 PM
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15. Always happy to be of assistance!
:hi:
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 01:14 PM
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12. FAIL
That doesn't include residentuial or commercial grid tied PV - California installed 338 MW of grid tied PV in 2010 ALONE

http://www.planetizen.com/node/46476

Only the original solar thermal facilities in Barstow built in the '80 are included in those numbers.

:rofl:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-25-11 11:11 PM
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16. And what percent of California's energy is generated
by private solar, and how much has that amount grown in 14 years?

If you're going to call me a failure, you need to provide some numbers.
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