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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:57 AM
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Scientists are sounding the alarm: the mysterious cracks appear across the planet
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 09:02 AM by Pharaoh
Scientists do not know what to think about: South America is bursting at the seams. In southern Peru, suddenly appeared a huge crack length of 3 km and a width of about 100 meters.

Anomaly occurred in the district Huakullani Chukuito province near the famous Lake Titicaca. A crack has appeared almost immediately: the earth like a burst at the site of a large tension, the far scattered huge chunks of soil.

Interestingly, the crack did not appear in the earthquake. In general, there was no catastrophe, the earth simply gone. The crack occurred on level ground and is not associated with any disasters. Scientists are confused with this fact. Cracks also appear in neighboring Bolivia. And not so long ago, the crack happened in Africa – Ethiopia. Maybe these phenomena is common nature: the continents literally split in front of mankind. (BetaNovosti)

Recommended readings:
Large Crack Opens in the Earth in Southern Peru (SoTT)
Giant crack in Africa formed in just days (NewScientist)
Iceland Lake Disappearing Into New Crack in Earth (National Geographic)
ESA’s Envisat satellite witnesses Earth’s largest crack (ESA News)
Deepest crack on earth found in the Caribbean (CNN)
Trinco Earth Crack: No stepping (LankaPuvath)
A Crack Opens in the Ethiopian Landscape, Preparing the Way for a New Sea (DiscoverMagazine)
Tremors Point to a Stressed-Out Stretch of the San Andrea Fault (Discover Magazine)
Earth crack a mistery (EHExtra)


http://thewatchers.adorraeli.com/2011/03/07/scientists-are-sounding-the-alarm-the-mysterious-cracks-appear-across-the-planet/
500 foot crack in the earth appears in Michigan, US (FromTheOld)
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:58 AM
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1. Incredible unscientific hysteria. It would be funny, except some people believe this.
n/t
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Pacifist Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:50 AM
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19. Indeed
The only time I ever unrec a post is for unscientific alarmist gibberish.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:00 AM
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2. Hard to read those without links.
Do you have them?

Did you expect us to find the articles ourselves? I mean, I can find them, but wouldn't it be polite to include the links?
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A-Schwarzenegger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:01 AM
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3. "There is a crack in everything..."
"Anthem"

The birds they sang
at the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don't dwell on what
has passed away
or what is yet to be.
Ah the wars they will
be fought again
The holy dove
She will be caught again
bought and sold
and bought again
the dove is never free.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

We asked for signs
the signs were sent:
the birth betrayed
the marriage spent
Yeah the widowhood
of every government --
signs for all to see.

I can't run no more
with that lawless crowd
while the killers in high places
say their prayers out loud.
But they've summoned, they've summoned up
a thundercloud
and they're going to hear from me.

Ring the bells that still can ring ...

You can add up the parts
but you won't have the sum
You can strike up the march,
there is no drum
Every heart, every heart
to love will come
but like a refugee.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.

Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.
That's how the light gets in.

-L. Cohen
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:23 AM
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17. That is hauntingly beautiful nt
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:03 AM
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4. The Africa crack is in a known rift valley. You've heard
of rifts, I'm sure. They're part of the whole plate tectonics thingie.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:03 AM
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5. One of my favorite SciFi movies from the 1960s...
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:05 AM
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6. Iceland is a very active earthquake and volcanic zone.
Cracks exist throughout the area. Comes with the territory.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:06 AM
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7. Earth's Largest Crack is the same known rift valley as the
African crack above. Two plates are separating. Common knowledge.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:08 AM
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8. The Caribbean "crack" is another rift zone, where plates are
separating as they are pushed apart. More plate tectonics.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:08 AM
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9. Crack kills
:shrug:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:19 AM
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16. So does spooky geology woo.
I actually Googled and read each of the stories. It's all crap - at least the mysterious nature of these cracks is crap. Woo sites. Woo stories. Woo-woo.
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SpoonFed Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:37 PM
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33. Yep.

The article isn't so much about large cracks appearing,
as it is about a small quantity of crack having disappeared.

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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:10 AM
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10. The Trinco crack, near Colombo, is only "several meters long."
Not that impressive, is it?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:11 AM
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11. The Ethiopian crack is the same one as your "Giant Crack in Africa."
Same tectonic process. Same place.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:12 AM
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12. San Andreas Fault? Hell, there are huge cracks all along it.
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 09:33 AM by MineralMan
Two plates are moving there. What would you expect?

Edit to correct spelling.
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:12 AM
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13. Earth changes even if we won't.
Shifting land masses may be the Earth's way of protecting herself. Or....it's the end of the world as we know it.

How's that either or? :rofl:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:15 AM
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14. The last crack, which is in Michigan, is in a forest,
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 09:18 AM by MineralMan
with it suspected to be from a sinkhole. It's not really going to be a mystery. It's only a mystery to people who are looking for mysteries, or who know nothing about geology. That's the case with all of these.

This is all spooky-stuff material, posted at woo sites like the one in the link you finally added. I Googled these, so I could check them out. They're only a mystery if you don't know how the Earth's plates and other geology works.

I see now, why you didn't post the links. I really do. The actual stories are a bit embarrassing, I think.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:19 AM
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15. Of course MM
I mostly post stuff just to annoy you :party:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:24 AM
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18. I doubt that very much. I'm not annoyed. I enjoy digging out the
facts about woo and posting them in response to posts like this. You truly had never heard of the Great Rift Valley in Africa? You don't know anything about plate tectonics? That's OK, if you haven't and don't, of course. But, someone will post information when woo appears on DU. Me or someone else. It's part of my mission in life. When the wacky conspiracy theory stuff shows up, I go hunt down the facts, and post them, so that others won't have to do all that searching. It has nothing to do with you.

Now, I do not know what cause the Peruvian crack or earth movement. It's recent. We'll have an explanation soon. You do know that Peru is active geologically, though, right?

Anyhow, thanks for finally posting that link. At the link, there are links to all of these stories. I did manage to find them all on Google, though, before you posted the link.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:54 AM
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21. I often post
things that I find interesting. And other people might also find interesting. I admit, sometimes I jump the gun and post something where the truth is fudged. I don't mind you pointing these things out. But you always seen to do it in a belittling condescending way.
Which I do find annoying. So if you could work on that it would be nice :toast:
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:05 AM
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22. Actually, what I did was to Google every one of those stories
and provide information. That's not condescending. I actually researched your linkless OP so I could provide some information to other DUers.

Your original source is, on its face, a woo site, one that discusses all sorts of conspiracy nonsense. The same is true with several of the source sites for the other stories you listed.

Consider the source. That's what I do. Then, I use my knowledge of geology, which I've gained by studying that for many years, to debunk such nonsense.

Everything you posted is pretty much nonsense. No "scientists are alarmed." They're not. The only incidents that have not been explained in these stories are ones where no earth scientist has examined the phenomenon.

Just because you're interested in something does not mean that it is in any way accurate. Given the sources for this stuff, alarm bells should have gone off as soon as you got to the sites. Any site that is "The Watchers" is suspect immediately. Whoever wrote that site cannot even write in decent English.

Real sources offer information. Woo sources offer woo. There is an easily-discernible difference between the two.

As I said, one of my missions in life is debunking woo. I will not stop doing so, no matter who posts it. Woo needs to be debunked, and in no uncertain terms. If you post it and I see it, I will debunk it.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:14 AM
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24. Some of us believe
we are in ecosystem collapse and these things are signs of that.As you know, science has often been way off the mark over the century's until a new consensus is formed. I will likely continue posting things I find relevant to these ideas. Mother earth is preparing for a giant shit storm I believe as a self defense mechanism, we are killing the planet.

"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident."

Arthur Schopenhauer
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:21 AM
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26. Actually, you BELIEVE that.
It is not supported by evidence. You're welcome to believe whatever you're able to believe. When you post woo, I will post explanations.

Schopenhauer was not a geologist. He knew nothing about plate tectonics. He has no expertise in this particular field. I know Schopenhauer's writings very well.

Do not take my debunking of woo personally. I will continue to do it whenever it appears.
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slutticus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 12:14 PM
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38. This is what they don't get.
They believe something so much that they go out and search for any unusual event that could potentially fit what they desperately want to be true (e.g. the world is ending, et cetera, et cetera).


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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:50 AM
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28. Well, but
Some of us believe we are in ecosystem collapse and these things are signs of that.


Do you have any evidence of that? Otherwise it's just the flipside of creationism. The faith of destructionism, seizing on real events but misinterpreting them in a non-scientific way.

Many falsehoods are also ridiculed, but somehow they never get to the self-evident stage. Given that cracks in the earth are a long-known phenomenon, given that these cited cracks are not at all unusual from a geological perspective, and given that no one is proposing any evidence of a deviation from normal mechanisms, you need to come up with some evidence for your belief system before others will accept it.

Otherwise, you are really seeking religious converts. I do not mean to be rude, but that is how I see it. On a board like this you are probably doomed to some pretty strong rebuttals.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:56 AM
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29. Faith is the evidence of things unseen.
That's the excuse religionists use. Pretty much the same thing with the eco-woo folks. It suits them to believe that everything is a sign of impending ecological disaster, so evidence is not required. "Common sense," you see...

Thanks for posting!
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:57 AM
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30. yes
I could name various things on the planet, but I'm at work at the moment and don't have time.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:22 PM
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31. Consider the ocean
Edited on Tue Jun-21-11 06:32 PM by Pharaoh
The BP disaster in the Gulf, Fukushima pouring radiation into the sea. Not to mention overfishing and collapse of many fish species.

"We have underestimated the overall risks, and that the whole of marine degradation is greater than the sum of its parts," Rogers said. "That degradation is now happening at a faster rate than predicted."

Indeed, the pace of change is tracking or has surpassed the worst-case scenarios laid out by the UN Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in its landmark 2007 report, according to the new assessment.

The chain reaction leading to increased acidification of the oceans begins with a massive influx of carbon into Earth's climate system.

Oceans act as a massive sponge, soaking up more than a quarter of the CO2 humans pump into the atmosphere.

But when the sponge becomes too saturated, it can disrupt the delicately balanced ecosystems on which marine life -- and ultimately all life on Earth -- depends.

http://news.discovery.com/earth/oceans-distress-foreshadow-mass-extinction-110621.html

Europe Braces for Serious Crop Losses and Blackouts

Record dry spring could drive up wheat prices, and lack of water may force nuclear reactors to shut down

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=europe-braces-for-serious-crop-losses

The solar maximum peak expected 2011 thru 2013
"The August 1st event really opened our eyes," says Karel Schrijver of Lockheed Martin's Solar and Astrophysics Lab in Palo Alto, CA. "We see that solar storms can be global events, playing out on scales we scarcely imagined before."

Explosions on the sun are not localized or isolated events, they announced. Instead, solar activity is interconnected by magnetism over breathtaking distances. Solar flares, tsunamis, coronal mass ejections--they can go off all at once, hundreds of thousands of miles apart, in a dizzyingly-complex concert of mayhem.

http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2010/13dec_globaleruption/

Colony collapse disorder and the food supply..................Have you noticed. I used to see thousands of honeybees each day as a kid. Now it is a rare sight to just see one. At least in Wisconsin......

Though not the only species up to the job, the honey bee is the mainstay of industrial agriculture, which pays migratory beekeepers millions each year to bring their hives around at blooming time. So it is no small matter that a third of the nation's managed honey bee colonies died off in 2006 due to a syndrome that has come to be known as Colony Collapse Disorder (CCD), or that the disaster repeated itself the following year and is expected to do so again in the year ahead.

http://www.nrdc.org/thisgreenlife/0809.asp

I could go on, but you probably will just say it is all woo woo. So I won't waste anymore of my time.


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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 07:52 PM
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34. What do those things have to do with earth cracks?
I realize that the plodding, orderly type of the thinking process to which I am acculturated may seem irritating to some, but the thing is that it works better than the alternative.

Each one of those is a real issue, but none of them have to do with faults and cracks in the earth.
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Pharaoh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:02 PM
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35. Oh geez.........
see your earlier post to which I was replying, goodnight......
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-22-11 12:11 AM
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37. "Destructionism"
Goodness, I like that turn of phrase. :hi:
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 09:54 AM
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20. And now in Michigan:
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:16 AM
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25. Here's another one......
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 10:24 AM
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27. Now, that's an impressive crack, and one with no
scientific explanation. :rofl:
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BeFree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 06:38 PM
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32. Crack happens
In the mere speck of time that this civilization has been scribbling its history, the earth has been a pretty peaceful place.

But geology shows that it has not always been so calm. In fact, massive changes have taken place. As far as we can tell many massive changes happened in a blink of time.

It doesn't pay to be curious (unless you are a paid geologist) about changes happening, but it is wise to direct one's attention to changes, be they large or small.

Thanks for this thread, Pharaoh.
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Yo_Mama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-21-11 08:37 PM
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36. Scientists aren't mystified.
After some googling, it turns out that the Michigan crack was the result of a very small earthquake:
http://www.mtu.edu/news/stories/2010/october/story31847.html

“The large crack and ridge were created most probably by a magnitude 1 or 2 earthquake,” said Wayne Pennington, chair of geological and mining engineering and sciences, of the events that took place Monday, October 4.
...
“The most-likely explanation is that the underlying limestone experienced a "pop-up," relieving stress that had accumulated in the uppermost few tens of feet of that layer," said Pennington. (An earlier statement attributed the movement to faulting, which now appears unlikely.) “The limestone is hard and brittle, and this movement can be described as the small earthquake that was felt."


In areas that were covered by glaciers in the last Ice Age crustal deformation occurred and the earth's surface is still adjusting from the weight lifted off it. But moisture changes and so forth can also cause these types of movements.

More about it:
http://www.geo.mtu.edu/MenomineeCrack/
Pop-ups are known from many quarries worldwide, where the rock is exposed. They are also recognized in the geologic record, where they are buried under more-recent sediments, and can generally be explained by unloading due to the retreat of continental glaciers about 10,000 years ago. (Another usage of the term “pop-up” can refer to larger, tectonic-scale structures; this is not what is meant here.)
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