Acetone+30% milage increase?

I might try this. Bob

Subject: Frequently Asked Questions
Author: Louis LaPointe
Date: April 20, 2005

Questions asked by the common man:

"There is no question things will change. The real question is will the change be for the better or for the worse?"

Where do I find 100% pure acetone? From a store such as K-Mart or Menards. We buy a gallon can of 100% pure acetone for about nine bucks. CVS and Walgreens have pure acetone in 16-oz. plastic bottles for three dollars. These bottles are excellent containers. Save them.

How much acetone do I put into my fuel? For gasoline we use about three oz. per ten US gallons. For diesel we use about two oz. per ten US gallons. That is equal to about 2.5 ml per liter for gasoline and about 1.5 ml per liter for diesel.

What kind of mileage increase will acetone give my car? Normally from 15% to 35% depending on your driving habits and how many of our mileage suggestions you have taken. We know an aeronautical engineer in San Jose whose test car went from a baseline of 19.3 MPG to 27. He certified this with his ScanGauge. That is a genuine boost of 27%.

What can the car companies do to increase mileage? A lot. But they won't because improved MPG results in less engine wear and better engine life. The LaPointe Rule says that ALL the industries that make cars can improve MPG. Certainly the fuel companies could do so in a matter of days. The spark plug guys, the injector companies and of course the lubricants.

When did you first start using acetone? Starting in 1953 with my 1948 Hudson, I used acetone as a test ingredient, driving up and down the coast of California. Later I used acetone in a 1939 Chevy going from California to Alabama in 1954. Been at it ever since. I love the absolute smoothness it gives my cars and trucks. Everyone does.

What speed gives my car the best mileage? The one that produces the least waste. This is easy to find with a vacuum gauge you place on your dash. Drive your car at whatever speed gives the highest vacuum reading at cruise. A high manifold vacuum helps to tear apart fuel molecules to vaporize them with air to start an efficient combustion process in the chamber.

Is gasoline or diesel fuel dangerous to handle? Certainly. Common gas has things like petroleum ether and other very toxic ingredients. Any fuel ignites easily and should never be taken into your house. Use metal cans to contain gasoline as it can melt many kinds of plastic.

Why are E20 and E85 gasolines being promoted? Because of federal money being thrown at the concept of using ethanol to replace gasoline. The concept is flawed because ANY use of alcohol in fuel DECREASES mileage severely. Ethanol actually costs more energy to produce than the energy it releases in an engine. The existing global heating will render ALL U.S. crops in the near future to be inefficient due to unpredictable weather changes. Very impractical idea.

Can gasoline engines ever reach the efficiency of diesel engines? Almost. It is indeed possible but not if the right things are done to both. A gas engine can be made to reach 30% easily and a diesel can be persuaded to reach 40%. The trick to increase Thermal Efficiency is in stopping the wasted fuel and by reducing friction to nearly zero. Plus doing other things.

Why use NGK spark plugs for mileage? This is due to normal resistance found in NGK plugs. Other plugs usually have 30,000 to 90,000 ohms of resistance. That is horrible. You cannot measure resistance in used plugs. Check new plugs for resistance values no more than 9000 ohms. Spark plug cables contribute about 5000 to 9000 ohms. The heat to fire the mixture comes from the milliamps in the spark. High resistance hurts the amperage. Get the lowest cost NGK plugs, like we do. And change plug cables if old or worn.

Is it true that thin oil is needed to get into tight places? No. This is pure myth because tight places means heavily loaded surfaces where a thicker lube with the right additives is necessary to handle the load. Bench testing lubes quickly points out facts regarding viscosity.

What is the ideal fuel for vehicles? It is NOT hydrogen or ethanol. It is good old propane. Reasons include the lack of range and explosivity of hydrogen. A lack of range is common for ethanol too, along with poor mileage and damage to fuel systems. Propane is problem free. Outboard motors will not run right with alcohol in the gasoline. Boats can stall way out there.

Is acetone harmful to my valves? No. What is harmful is late timing and lean mixtures. But these conditions disappeared when they put in computers to manage your engine settings. This is one of the myths being passed around to naive listeners by Big Oil. No valve has ever been hurt simply by using a tiny bit of acetone in gasoline or diesel fuel. Acetone is good for engines.

Have any car companies accepted the use of acetone in the gas? Maybe Toyota because I was told the Prius gets 62-63 MPG with acetone used per my website. They seem proud of that fact. I was further told they do NOT approve of alcohol in the gasoline. Neither do boat mechanics whose clients constantly complain about the problem with alcohol.

What do you think of states turning to more ethanol instead of less? To say it is politics as usual is too nice. Politicians are basically lawyers and self-serving. They want reelection and Big Farmers in corn producing states like Minnesota are more than willing allies. They are selling out the rest of us into high inflation with terribly bad MPG. This is no big secret.

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I asked a friend who works with acetone if it will eat the rubber/plastic based engine parts. He said anything that can withstand petroleum products can withstand Acetone, esp. at that concentration.

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Keep acetone away from painted surfaces. It is the key ingredient in paint remover.

Acetone is a poisonous substance with dangerous vapors, similar to gasoline.



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I'm seeing an interesting effect that has been observed by others using
acetone. The "acetone effect" lasted about 1000-1500 miles in my
vehicles (with about a 10-12% increase in MPG), then my mileage slowly
dropped back down to pre-acetone levels and has stayed there ever
since. I have tried resetting by running non-acetone tanks of gas but
nothing seems to work. Nothing else has changed. Same gas station, same
ratios as before but basically my car now ignores the acetone
completely. Same mileage with or without. I have seen other people
report this in their cars as well. At this point I'm about ready to
just give up on this stuff. I'm fed up with trying to squeeze an extra
5-10% out of my car anyways. It just is not worth the hassle, period.
It was worth a shot but for now I'm going to consider this a failed
experiment. Unless anyone has any ideas as to what may be causing this,
I'm done. It's much easier to just switch to a diesel and double my
mileage without all the fuss.

Frank.

"Keep acetone away from painted surfaces. It is the key ingredient in paint remover."

...it's the active ingredient in nail polish remover

my husband is reading that site now ;)

The web site has no studies by automotive engineers. I would think something this simple would have been checked out several times in the courts of automobile history.

Acetone is an excellent solvent. It can and will dissolve many petrochemical compounds like certain plastics; others, it leaves alone.

This would probably be fine to try in an old car, but I'd certainly check it out first.

Good luck, though. Let us know how it works.

--p!

engine wear. Any fuel savings could be wiped out by the need for frequent replacements of the engine.

Acetone is indeed toxic, but it is also a naturally occurring metabolite in human (and other) living tissues. During the metabolism of fats in the liver, occasionally excess acetyl CoA, this being the material that - through the citric acid cycle (aka Krebs cycle) provides most of the energy of cells. Acetyl CoA is not readily transportable and so it is enzymatically self condensed to 3-ketobutyric acid, a water soluble compound that can be transported to other cells. Upon arriving in cells with energy deficits, the 3-ketobutyrate is converted back to Acetyl CoA and oxidized normally.

3-ketobutyrate is not particularly stable however, and slowly decomposes to give carbon dioxide and acetone. If one is familiar with the smell and taste of acetone, one can sometimes actually taste it on one's breath if one is either in a starvation mode or is largely depleted with respect to carbohydrates and/or glycogen.

It happens that a few tissues, notably the heart, preferentially oxidize molecules like ketobutyrate, which is sometimes referred to as a ketone body. It is reasonable to assume that acetone is always present in tissues, especially blood, at some equilibrium concentration. What that concentration might be, I have no idea.

These effects are important in fat metabolism, in which the liver plays a prominent role. Alcoholics and persons with non-alcoholic cirrhosis can actually die of starvation while being functionally obese, simply because they can no longer process fats. Weird but true.

I don't know though whether one could actually fuel one's car with the breath of alcoholics. The promise or hype of ethanol aside, I suspect not.

Digging deeper into this guys web site it seems that his claim is that the acetone, in a very small amount/percentage, improves millage by allowing more of the primary fuel to atomized and properly combusted. So it seems unlikely that there would be any dilution of lubricating oil. I have used the additives they sell to help older cars pass the smog test and they smell suspiciously like acetone which might be how they work, making the engine more completely burn the fuel charge. Prowl around the website for more details on acetone and lubrication ideas. Bob

Likely you won't find it. Technical grade acetone runs about 98% to 99+% Acetone and the stuff isn't cheap. It has to be run through some rigorous purification before it can be called 'technical grade'. You may be able to get a specialty "atomic absorption" grade but the quantity will be small and price will be huge. Those high grades of acetone are usually sold to for scientific or technical purpose where purity is essential. The stuff you see in hardware or dept. stores is likely a lower 'commercial' grade intended for use in cleaning, paint removal, paint thinner etc...

I can see why Acetone may burn well in an internal combustion engine. It has a low flash point, and vaporzes quite readily. Example, put on a chemical resistant glove, poor a little acetone over it and as the acetone vaporizes the glove will turn cold. Acetone's low flash point and vapor pressure likely makes for a more even buring fuel.