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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:48 AM
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At Least Two Nuclear Reactors Were Damaged by the Earthquake, BEFORE the Tsunami Hit
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 12:48 AM by bananas
Apparently a lot of people are still unaware of this.
Reported by Bloomberg and others: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x1159296

A radiation alarm went off at Tokyo Electric Power Co.’s Fukushima nuclear power plant before the tsunami hit on March 11, suggesting that contrary to earlier assumptions the reactors were damaged by the earthquake that spawned the wall of water.

A monitoring post on the perimeter of the plant about 1.5 kilometers (1 mile) from the No. 1 reactor went off at 3:29 p.m., minutes before the station was overwhelmed by the tsunami that knocked out backup power that kept reactor cooling systems running, according to documents supplied by the company. The monitor was set to go off at high levels of radiation, an official said.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:02 AM
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1. TEPCO knew this immediately and with-held it while creating a false narrative.
Draw your own conclusions.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:13 AM
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2. Even the tree-hugging commie liberals at BusinessWeek reported it!
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:38 AM
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3. Reactor 4 had a known manufacturing defect - fortunately it was offline for refueling
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 01:38 AM by bananas
http://www.bellona.no/bellona.org/articles/articles_2011/japan_whistleblower

Fukushima reactor designer turned whistleblower says he knew reactor No 4 has been unsound for 40 years

A former Fukushima Daiichi reactor designer turned whistle blower today said the crippled plant’s reactor No 4 had been relying on flawed steel to hold radiation in its core, and that he himself helped hide the defect when the reactor – which he called a "time bomb” – was built four decades ago.

Charles Digges, 24/03-2011

Three technicians meanwhile were rushed to hospital after receiving severe radiation burns, triggering a second evacuation of workers in as many days, as anxiety over the safety of Tokyo’s tap water persisted. Official readings indicated that radiation levels in the metropolis’s water had returned to “normal,” but that readings were coming back high for tap water in two neighboring prefectures, Chiba and Saitama.

The former reactor engineer, Mitsuhiko Tanaka, who says he turned his back on the nuclear industry after Chernobyl, told Japan Today that he had assisted in covering up the critical design flaw while working for a unit of Hitachi in 1974.

Reactor No 4 was shut down for maintenance when the catastrophic 9.0 scale earthquake and tsunami hit Japan on March 11, and disabled all of the Fukushima Daiichi plant’s reactor cooling systems.

Reactor No 4 has since suffered critic lacks of coolant in its open spent nuclear fuel storage pond which has been ablaze off again and on again since last week, releasing massive doses of radioactivity into the environment. Rescue workers resorted to bombing it with seawater dropped from helicopters with questionable success.

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:45 AM
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4. Workers entered the No. 1 reactor building...only to hear their dosimeter alarms go off a few secon
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 01:59 AM by bananas
Another data point:
http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20110516a3.html

Monday, May 16, 2011

Tepco detected sharp rise in radiation in reactor 1 immediately after temblor struck
Quake 'hurt reactors before tsunami'
Kyodo

High radiation readings taken in the No. 1 reactor building the night of March 11 suggest it was the quake rather than the loss of cooling that critically damaged the Fukushima No. 1 power plant, a utility source said Saturday.

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Workers entered the No. 1 reactor building during the night to assess the damage only to hear their dosimeter alarms go off a few seconds later, sources at Tokyo Electric Power Co. said. Since they thought the building was filled with highly radioactive steam, the workers decided to evacuate.

Based on the dosimeter readings, the radiation level was about 300 millisieverts per hour, the source said, suggesting that a large amount of radioactive material had already been released from the core.

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The Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency has so far said the reactor withstood the shaking and that the unexpectedly large tsunami caused a station blackout, which led to explosions.

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posted on DU way back: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=295522&mesg_id=295699

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:47 AM
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5. TEPCO ALSO knew this immediatley and with-held it while creating a false narrative
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 01:49 AM by bananas
As the article headline accurately says,
"Tepco detected sharp rise in radiation in reactor 1 immediately after temblor struck"

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:54 AM
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6. Who knows what else TEPCO has with-held
You just can't trust the nuclear industry.
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caraher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 07:30 AM
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7. You definitely can't trust TEPCO
Even by industry standards their a dishonest company.

Since the plants were never designed to withstand earthquakes of the magnitude of that one (why not? - there's a scandal!), failure during the earthquake isn't surprising. Indeed, the real surprise was more that they apparently were intact... but obviously all the tributes to their engineering and construction were premature.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 08:26 AM
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8. If its coming from any of the companies building, operating or overseeing the nuclear industry
its a big LIE. Of course we didn't know it. It didn't fit their narrative of how the Tsunami did it, that the plants withstood the quake. We've got some unused bridges to sell here in Oklahoma too if anyone is interested.
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FBaggins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:30 AM
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9. What's the point here?
Is it an attempt to pretend that it wasn't really the tsunami that did in these reactors?

A "damaged" reactor, including one that releases enough radiation to set off an alarm (they're incredibly sensitive), is not automatically one that's destined for a meltdown.

The link you provided just cites yet another of Gundersen's ridiculously wrong statements (claiming that at least one reactor had melted down before the tsunami even struck).
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