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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 06:07 PM
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Tweets from Japan: "When we wash their hair, it comes off in a clump - It is really scary"
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Tweets from Japan: “When we wash their hair, it comes off in a clump — It is really scary”
August 13th, 2011 at 06:30 AM


Decrease in White Blood Cells, Headache, Nausea in a Hospital in Sendai City, Miyagi, EX-SKF, August 12, 2011:

Tweets from a nurse (my very good guess from her tweets) in a large hospital in Sendai City, Miyagi Prefecture on August 10:

Increasing number of patients with unexplainable decrease in white blood cells, headache, nausea. They are diagnosed for existing illness and undergo treatment, but they don’t respond to the treatment at all. I’ve seen those cases in my hospital. I’m not saying they are all because of the radiation exposure, but I’m telling you what I’m seeing.

When we wash their hair, it comes off in a clump. It is really scary. The doctor says, “I really wonder why the white blood cell count is down…” Doctor, don’t be so relaxed about it. There is going to be more and more people who don’t respond to treatment.


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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 06:13 PM
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1. Not good.
Not good at all.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 06:44 PM
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2. Unexplainable decrease! WTF, seems pretty clear, imo. n/t
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 07:23 PM
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3. That is a perfect example of how the nuclear power industry has gotten by with their
lying ass ways for years. All it takes is a few well placed individuals such as this one who embrace nuclear energy to spoil the wealth of knowledge coming with the dangers of that industry.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:26 AM
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7. I hear you, madokie. It is so much worse than they will ever admit.
:hug::hi:
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:25 AM
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8. In fact the same symptons were seen and documented
in the months after the nukes were dropped. The research done by the Japanese was confiscated by the Americans and not returned until the 70's by U.N. order. They know now EXACTLY what it is.
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Mnemosyne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 12:25 PM
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12. It is obvious, isn't it? N/t
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 07:57 PM
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4. Is that nurse in denial????
Surely after all the history in Japan of radiation poisoning, and the ability to GOOGLE symptoms of radiation sickness, the medical staff in the midst of the worst radiation crisis in history cannot figure out what to make of those symptoms???

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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 08:15 PM
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5. She probably has to word it carefully so she doesn't get fired and lose her nursing license
Edited on Sat Aug-13-11 08:17 PM by bananas
If she makes a diagnosis but isn't a licensed MD she could lose her RN license.
It sounds like she knows exactly what is going on,
but is constrained from coming out and saying it any more directly.

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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-13-11 10:09 PM
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6. If this is true, (and it's not stress) then this is indeed a problem.
However, I would still posit, that a large part of the problem is that the "Nuke Debate" is two opposing sides with "points to prove" rather than two concerned parties with a commom goal of 'Results with safety'.

In true political fashion, "Greens" conceed that "The Enemy" will not only try, but succeed in thwarting them. And having made that concession, demand that the law offer them thr only tennable protection. ie, forbid the attempt.

Conversely, we pro-nukers, tend to call the anti bunch a lot of "old ladies".

I absolutely conceed that the byproducts of nuclear projects may be highly dangerous. That those materials require special handling.

But havin comceeded that, I also think that the proper response to any such conflict between safety and profitability, is not to forbid, but to define the circumstances under which advancement/profit is allowed.

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:29 AM
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9. Nuclear power is NOT safe, will NEVER be safe
so your "common goal" is unattainable.

"I absolutely conceed that the byproducts of nuclear projects may be highly dangerous."

MAY BE???

"That those materials require special handling."

They can't be handled, seen, tasted or smelled and are only detectible after the fact by sophisticated gadgets.

How about doing this special handling in YOUR backyard?

This idiocy is due to the MIC. They wanted to continue playing with their toys so the bait and switch of the "Peaceful Atom" was born. Of course the industry got real cozy with the government, financially entrenched and alternative energy development has been thwarted by economic interest ever since.

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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 08:32 AM
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10. 100% concede that the MIC is why we're dicking around with...
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 08:37 AM by TheMadMonk
...the least tenable, most wasteful and dirtiest, BUT most easily weaponisable of nuclear technologies.

And yet, coming from there, allowing nuclear power's two biggest warts (Chernobyl and Fukushima) as typical rather than extreme events AND conceding outcomes from the bad end of the spectrum, it STILL statistically pans out as 10 times (or better) safer/less lethal than the fossil fuels we're burning right now.

SAFE is a relative term. Nuclear power is already provably much SAFER than what we have right now.

Your refusal to find common ground on those terms does seem at least a little teabaggerish.

And any number of ordinary industrial pollutants can't be seen, tasted or smelt. So so what? Due care is due care whatever the industry.

My back yard is PERFECTLY fine by me. Here in Australia we have some of the most geologically stable land in the world. You pay, I'm happy to see so called "waste" stored here at your expense, until it appreciates in value and you want to buy it back. At a suitable premium of course.

Edit: bad tag
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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 02:46 PM
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13. You press, as do your colleagues, this "either/or" scenario.
How about NEITHER/NOR?
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:52 PM
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14. I agree with neither/nor.
However, it appears that most people still want their cars and televisions, true cost of ownership be damned.

People have been far happier with far less than we have today. It's time to let go of the industrial definition of being human.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 02:31 PM
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18. Yea see how far that gets you
Edited on Mon Aug-15-11 02:42 PM by Confusious
seems some think changing humans is as easy as changing their underwear.

Anything based on that is doomed to failure.

Oh, and if you mean giving up on the industrial revolution by "giving up on the industrial human," kiss the good, such as vaccines, computers, Internet and nutrition along with the bad, goodbye. Might as well just go live in a cave.

Maybe we can get the Luddites an island so we can dump them and their loincloths there while other people figure out real solutions.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-15-11 02:55 PM
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19. My preferences won't change the course of events.
Changes to the global resource base of fossil fuels and the economy that's built on them might. I can always hope.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 11:02 AM
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11. Eh, not so sophisticated
The first geiger counter was built in 1908. The next big improvement was 1928. The current form has been the around since 1947.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 03:57 PM
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15. Age is not an indicator of sophistication
Take a look at an orrery for example...

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Karenina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 06:14 PM
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16. Ich bedanke mich, GG.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-14-11 10:19 PM
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17. I guess if you want to look at "an" exception to the rule
Edited on Sun Aug-14-11 10:24 PM by Confusious
Of course, they've been building things just as "complicated" since the 18th century.

Why is it people always point to exceptions to the rule as "the rule" around here? As if every rule doesn't have an exception?

I'm sure they had a "DIY orrey" posted somewhere on the ancient internet, just like the DIY Geiger counters today.
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