Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Bad Theory, Bad Legislation

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Environment/Energy Donate to DU
 
groovedaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:04 PM
Original message
Bad Theory, Bad Legislation
The House’s campaign to undercut environmental laws has now migrated to the Senate. Rand Paul, a Republican of Kentucky, is expected to offer a resolution this week to block a new federal regulation requiring cuts in soot- and smog-forming gases from power plants east of the Mississippi River. Joe Manchin III, a Democrat of West Virginia, and Dan Coats, an Indiana Republican, are then expected to try to delay all new rules governing power-plant pollution.

These are bad bills, and Senate leaders should stop them from going forward. Weakening clean-air rules would harm public health. And the fundamental premise, that environmental regulation destroys jobs, is simply wrong.

Earlier this year, the Economic Policy Institute conducted a study of a proposed rule that would require power plants to reduce emissions of mercury and other airborne toxics. It said that investment in new controls would actually create 92,000 jobs beyond those that might be lost through plant closings and higher electricity prices. Other studies of clean air laws have come to similar conclusions: These rules are job creators, not killers.

That hasn’t stopped Mitt Romney, a Republican presidential candidate, from accusing President Obama of killing jobs by “vastly expanding” Washington’s regulatory reach. Even moderate Republicans, like Senator Susan Collins of Maine, wrongly blame the “uncertainty and cost created by new federal regulations” for unemployment.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/08/opinion/bad-theory-bad-legislation.html?nl=todaysheadlines&adxnnl=1&emc=tha211&adxnnlx=1320775319-01ZPKFI9wAoT6zRJOQ2ufQ
Refresh | +8 Recommendations Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
Philosopher King Donating Member (269 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 01:19 PM
Response to Original message
1. It is my understanding that the new regulations are so tight that many
older facilities would be forced to cease operations. Typically, older facilities are protected from this sort of thing by "grandfather" clauses which provide exemptions for unachievable standards.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-08-11 06:41 PM
Response to Reply #1
2. True, but so what?
Yes, EPA regs will cost jobs: heavily subsidized, value-destroying jobs

Why is that so? Well, it's widely known by now, at least in economist circles, that the coal power industry grossly underpays for the damages it does. That's the unanimous conclusion of a flurry of new research that's been done on the question: see, e.g., the National Research Council (NRC), Harvard Medical School's Paul Epstein, or last week's bombshell from http://www.aeaweb.org/articles.php?doi=10.1257/aer.101.5.1649">Yale's William Nordhaus and colleagues, which found that coal-fired power plants do something like 5 cents of unpaid damages for every single kilowatt hour of power they produce. Economists call these costs "externalities," but really they amount to subsidies -- the public is paying these costs on the coal companies' behalf.

What's perhaps not as well understood is that the bulk of those damages comes from a relatively small number of extremely dirty plants, the ones that still burn high-sulfur coal or lack pollution-control equipment. The NRC report found that the 95th percentile of coal plants do more than 24 times the damage of the fifth percentile, on a per-kW basis. It is those plants, the clunkers that are just barely (or not even) economic to run, the ones grandfathered in under the Clean Air Act , that will be picked off by new regulations.

http://www.grist.org/coal/2011-10-03-epa-regs-will-cost-heavily-subsidized-value-destroying-jobs
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 04:12 AM
Response to Reply #1
3. Good. (n/t)
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-09-11 10:12 AM
Response to Original message
4. Until the number of coal fired plants starts decreasing instead of increasing, we're losing the war.
Printer Friendly | Permalink | Reply | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue Apr 30th 2024, 01:10 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Topic Forums » Environment/Energy Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC