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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:30 PM
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Had a strange conversation on Peak Oil
today. The woman was misinformed or in denial. Is Al Gore's movie going to preach to the choir? Are we ever going to get the 'other side' to learn what is happening before it's to late.
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johnnypneumatic Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:46 PM
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1. it is already too late
the question is: is there enough wood left to build enough gondolas to convert thousands of coastal cities to function like Venice
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:49 PM
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3. Why? If We Run Out of Oil, That Should Take Care of Global Warming
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:09 AM
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5. Not necessarily
but it will help cure global dimming which would increase the temperatures anyway.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_prog_summary.shtml
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 02:41 AM
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7. No, Earth's circulation systems are already dying.
There is no way to know if the Gulf Stream will ever recover from the damage already done to it in the last few years.

Without functioning air and water currents, even though some parts of the earth are having to contend with increased heat and a lack of water, other parts, particularly Europe, will get colder and colder, until they are experiencing a new ice-age.

This has started, and nobody knows how to stop it. It has happened before, and scientists had always thought it must have been a very slow change, but core samples have revealed that the process, once begun, can be disastrously sudden.

Each effect of global warming increases the speed at which the next effect happens, so we are now on a run-away express train that will inevitably kill millions.
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serryjw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:53 PM
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4. I was going to start another thread
but I'll post here. Saw a young man that was volunteering in NOLA.......He said

quote.......

Category A neighborhoods are those clustered along Lake Pontchartrain and the eastern border of the city, which experienced the most significant flood damage and would not be rebuilt. These areas, where many of the city’s poor and working-class people of color lived and have homes, would be bulldozed and transformed into a combination of restored wetlands and urban parks.

end quote.........

What do you do with poor people that literally had shacks for homes? The young man said they are being offered a few thousand dollars for their property. What does a 75 year old poor woman that has never been out of NOLA do with a few thousand dollars?

http://www.nhi.org/online/issues/145/shiftinglandscape.html
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Kailassa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:46 AM
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6. The thugs don't want her to do anything with it.
The thugs just want to punish her for not dying.
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-28-06 10:50 AM
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9. Wow!
I never would have thought of it like that - but you're more than likely right.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-26-06 01:53 PM
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8. I think a lot of them were renters with lean pensions living in cheap...
...housing with low energy bills. Just getting by. Now they are lost.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-25-06 09:48 PM
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2. Just like Fahrenheit 911
made no difference.
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