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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:43 AM
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Organic and feral bees are doing OK
according to this post:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=752492&mesg_id=757791
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=758281&mesg_id=758716

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I’m on an organic beekeeping email list of about 1,000 people, mostly Americans, and no one in the organic beekeeping world, including commercial beekeepers, is reporting colony collapse on this list.
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lazer47 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:50 AM
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1. The situation with bees should be taken
a lot more seriously, it is not a joke, it is for real, organic or not, If the bee population is down only 25%, that means crop production in the US will be down 25%, that is a fact,, end of story.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:53 AM
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2. Absolutely! It should receive as much or more attention than Bush's War. nm
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:08 AM
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8. Don't be a smarty pants. It could have drastic effect on growing food. Pollen
is needed to cross pollenate. Didn't you learn that in school or are you too daft.

Furthermore, it could also have impact on other insects and cause a wider problem.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:36 PM
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12. ?
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 02:38 PM by patrice
What did I say to deserve this response?

Personally, I don't call a person "daft" unless I have a good reason to.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 02:43 PM
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13. I think xultar assumed you were being sarcastic.
As in, that you felt we should not be wasting our time worrying about the Mysterious Bee Disappearance, because it would distract ourselves from Ending The Iraqi War.
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patrice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 04:25 PM
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14. Oh . . . well, I'm not very good at sarcasm.
I generally try pretty hard to say what I mean and mean what I say. Things are less complicated that way.

Bush's Occupation of Iraq IS the issue I spend most of my time working on, but that doesn't blind me to how important this bee thing is. My Dad used to keep bees when I was a kid and I remember what amazing little creatures they are, not to mention the fact that it's obvious how much our food supply depends upon them.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:12 AM
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10. Actually, it should. No bees, no pollination, no food. We're dead.
Our fat, fructose asses will need all that crack-sugar, because we'll all starve to death.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:17 AM
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11. TRUE DAT!
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:53 AM
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3. Do you move the bees around a lot?
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 10:54 AM by The Backlash Cometh
I'm really surprised that these poor bees get transported everywhere. Jesus, moving is consider one of the top seven most stressful things for a human being to do. Why wouldn't it be for bees?
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Fridays Child Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:54 AM
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4. That's interesting.
I wonder if there's a common thread among the non-organic beekeepers--a pesticide or some other chemical that's been widely introduced into their hives.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:56 AM
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5. They think they may be on to the cause of the problem
http://www.newsday.com/news/health/la-sci-bees26apr26,0,4152870.story?coll=ny-leadhealthnews-headlines

fungus that caused widespread loss of bee colonies in Europe and Asia may be playing a crucial role in the mysterious phenomenon known as Colony Collapse Disorder that is wiping out bees across the United States, UC San Francisco researchers said Wednesday.

Researchers have been struggling for months to explain the disorder, and the new findings provide the first solid evidence pointing to a potential cause............
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:02 AM
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7. If other bees are refusing to raid the abandoned honey....
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 11:04 AM by aquart
WHAT'S IN THE HONEY?
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 11:11 AM
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9. Fungi and a nasty virus or three, apparently... nt
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Eurobabe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-26-07 10:56 AM
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6. I just read the other threads, see that it is explained there
Edited on Thu Apr-26-07 10:58 AM by 48percenter
I am very interested in this CCD story, and have been following for several weeks now.

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Egalitarian Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 02:01 PM
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15. I will update if new info comes in...
An online friend in another forum has been in contact with the author of the original e-mail concerning organic beekeepers and small(normal sized) cell foundation.
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NNadir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-27-07 09:31 PM
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16. It sounds rather anecdotal to me.
Who counts these things?

What are "organic" bees? Do they have little controllers that keep them away from flowers with pesticides?

Usually population dynamics of a species requires considerable field research. Thus the claim about feral bees also seems anecdotal.
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