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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 06:21 PM
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Got a case of those mean old lowdown TEOTWAWKI blues?
Try a shot of GliderGuider's all-new, older-than-Moses Spiritual Revival! Trust me. I wrote it, how bad can it be?

The Spiritual Effects of Comprehending the Crisis

See you on the other side O8)
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Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 06:30 PM
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1. Beautifully written. Thank you.
K&R and I hope this makes the Greatest list.
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bananas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 10:08 PM
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6. One more vote needed to put this on the greatest list. nt
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cassiepriam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 06:36 PM
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2. Global warming is mother earth's way of spitting us out, so her immune system can heal.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 08:34 PM
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5. And I see it
As consciousness seeking liberation from this impersonally sadistic existence of life devouring life ,just to die anyway.Yes peak oil hurts lions devouring baby gazelles hurts,hearing the lawn mowers revving every sunday to chop the grass down hurts,.And if the world will not revere itself and the life here and cease the traumatic games .. we will make it as comfortable here as we can ,and if our search to overcome nature's traumatic design make her spit us out, than spit us out than. For if matter spits out consciousness we are free of the suffering here.Matter loses cohesion without consciousness.And death the half maker dies and materiality disintegrates as life ceases and consciousness is liberated from this condition.
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ramapo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 07:57 PM
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3. I need to take some time
to read this through carefully. I think it speaks to the deep distress that I feel. What I find most troubling is that our government, society, and especially my generation have all failed so miserably. Growing up during the '60s, the future seemed like a bright and hopeful place, despite the threat of nuclear holocaust (and today's young generations worry about a few wacky terrorists). I had believed that science and knowledge would be the basis for solving problems. I believed we'd have bases on the Moon and Mars. Instead we turned our backs on science. Embraced apathy, denial, and ignorance. Celebrated those qualities in our leaders and our culture. I sure need some spiritual solace.
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 08:25 PM
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4. I get you..
But for me pantheism has offered me no solace.

Because even without human beings mucking up the Earth with our reward and punishment games, the way life or consciousness housed in bodies has to exist is still viciously brutally impersonal yet it hurts like hell.

So being that the "balance" the life death cycles all of it the reality a pantheist would call his"all god" to me is horribly flawed, it's creation likewise is flawed whether people revere it or not
and I find no solace in calling evolution ,the forces that push us into existence,and the massive amounts of death and suffering it requires of life it hurts me to see it.What I am talking of is not just peak oil the collapse of our civilization... I am talking about is beyond us,it is a meteor flying millions of miles to slam into this planet and wipe off almost all species,every so often there is a massive die off an evolutionary bottleneck caused by something. I comprehend the terrible vulnerability of life, as in spirits trapped in materiality...a materiality that is indifferent to suffering pain and death and the terrible effects of this kind of traumatic conditioning called by darwinists the survival of the fittest.


I cannot revere this world and it's blind half maker god/goddess guiding this torture chamber Earth.

I have sought answers to WHY why must living beings eat each other to live and die anyway why are we blinded to the end result of all this?

As I explored this asking why,I found a different picture of the "all god" and saw the walls of the prison forcing my consciousness into a form I had no say over born into a family I had no say in being raised by..and I began to see the war on Earth to survive is the war in the aether's,I saw with my own senses the beings that"all god" control freak cancerous consciousness parasite predator that feed off of all the suffering joy hate and trauma as felt by other beings subjected to the situations evolving sets up in bodies or consciousness inside matter.

And I hate nature I hate the all god for it is no god I trust as good. I cannot call god a god if it tortures beings to teach'em a lesson or make them evolve while blinding them.

So for me I await my release.
The Earth might very well die from what humans have done trying to make life livable here under the control of an indifferent, blind sadistic impersonal"creator" and it's sick half made fake creation.


The buddhists and science admits that there is no end or boundaries between the interactions of molecules it's all a interdependent interwoven system consciousness gets trapped by patterns of the molecules as commanded by DNA to grow and shape the body.. and it wants to be alive but the half makers demented 'order and chaos' games this demented futile balance makes sure homeostasis is unachievable by all but the most cruel selfish and psychopathic for only a short time.


So for me, I hate the creator I hate evolution I hate the way this world is forced to exist.

So I look to a god that does not harm, that will not create and force consciousness to incarnate in it's 'creation' without regard to the cost of this to the consciousness it is forcing to manifest.

To me the end of the world is a good thing. It is liberation to me. So when I hear of tragedies I hope that it was not painful to the victims and I wish the survivors to cope or escape. This gilded Prison Earth.I remain here because I hate the creator and I am hoping to free others from this mess if they choose to be free of it. I am not obligated to this world but to the consciousness that is not from here I want to lessen the blows of trauma and suffering this evil system inflicts I want to liberate .I am not from here I was trapped here.And others I have ran into express the same thing. Some are tortured spiritually by this world and the parasitic predators here be they corporeal or not.

There is a war of 2 essences two kinds of realities . And until it separates and the condition here stops there will be no ceasing of the death devouring life devouring life and dying in this circular cage.

My hope is in a great separation. That means an END to materiality as we know it.When death dies and life is no longer moving and the materiality cage is broken, time stops and the cancerous consciousness that created this mess dies away for it can no longer feed upon the ignorance, pain,longing and suffering of others to sustain itself and this cage..



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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-13-07 10:50 PM
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7. Spiritual effects
and traumatic effects.Here is an attempt to study what living on this planet with droughts,ect. causes us emotionally.

The Origins and Diffusion of Patrism in Saharasia, c.4000 BCE:
Evidence for a Worldwide, Climate-Linked
Geographical Pattern in Human Behavior*by James DeMeo, Ph.D.**

http://www.orgonelab.org/saharasia_en.htm
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badgerpup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 12:53 AM
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8. Well. At least now I have some explanation...
...for the deep depression, malaise, hopelessness, ___________, (fill in the blank) that I've been experiencing.

And here I thought it was just 'same shit, different day' bi-polar low cycle...especially since the incidence of depression and anxiety in this society has increased astronomically since 2000.

I wonder why. :sarcasm:
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undergroundpanther Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 01:09 AM
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9. The human condition hurts
Edited on Mon May-14-07 01:09 AM by undergroundpanther
As does trying to exist (let alone self actualize)in a world with hurricanes, droughts and trauma caused by nature , a billion different illnesses,old age,injuries..the list goes on.Despite the human caused problems from pollution to greed abuse and war...We suffer being consciousness here. That's why it hurts us.We all can imagine a better way but seems reality has it's own ways and we can't do alot to change it.We are wired to survive and our own survival mechanisms will destroy us.
Those who think if humans either became all nice and reduced the carbon footprints to zero or disappeared things would be better here under the capricious claw of Gaia are mistaken.
Ask a dinosaur how he felt when a fucking meteor wiped out the environment he lived in.
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GliderGuider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 07:59 AM
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10. I wish you peace
I found this post from Kadie with a link to a Native prayer.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x879966#880028

And Kurt Vonnegut said it best in God Bless You, Mr. Rosewater as part of a baptismal speech the protagonist says he's planning for his neighbours' twins: "Hello, babies. Welcome to Earth. It's hot in the summer and cold in the winter. It's round and wet and crowded. At the outside, babies, you've got about a hundred years here. There's only one rule that I know of, babies—God damn it, you've got to be kind."
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conning Donating Member (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 11:26 AM
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11. Your essay is both heartfelt
and clearly written --a felicitous combination. When you see yourself as a participant in an alive, meaningful, and autopoietic universe, you realize your own responsibility.

I saw your posts on John Michael Greer's site, and am glad you posted your essay here.
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Extend a Hand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 02:56 PM
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12. pass that bong over here! n/t
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-14-07 03:25 PM
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13. Very nicely written. K&R
Thank you for sharing this.
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