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dogindia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:31 PM
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running a car on salt water and curing cancer
Not bad.

http://www.wkyc.com/video/player.aspx?aid=35660&bw=

Video: Water into fuel?
Reported by Michael O'Mara
Created: 5/22/2007 7:28:52 PM
Updated:5/23/2007 3:56:23 PM

Retired TV station owner and broadcast engineer, John Kanzius, wasn't
looking for an answer to the energy crisis.
He was looking for a cure for cancer.

Four years ago, inspiration struck in the middle of the night. Kanzius
decided to try using radio waves to kill the cancer cells.

His wife Marianne heard the noise and found her husband inventing a
radio frequency generator with her pie pans.

"I got up immediately, and thought he had lost it."

Here are the basics of John's idea:

Radio-waves will heat certain metals. Tiny bits of certain metal are
injected into a cancer patient.

Those nano-particals are attracted to the abnormalities of the cancer
cells and ignore the healthy cells.

The patient is then exposed to radio waves and only the bad cells heat
up and die.

But John also came across yet another extrordinary breakthrough.

His machine could actually make saltwater burn.

John Kanzius discovered that his radio frequency generator could
release the oxygen and hydrogen from saltwater and create an
incredibly intense flame.

"Just like that. If that was in a car cylinder you could see the
amount of fire that would be in the cylinder."

The APV Company Laboratory in Akron has checked out John's amazing
invention. They were amazed.

"That could be a steam engine, a steam turbine. That could be a car
engine if you wanted it to be."

Imagine the possibilities. Saltwater as the ultimate clean fuel.

A happy byproduct of one man searching for the cure for cancer.
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 01:37 PM
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1. Not practical
No matter what the physical or chemical process you can't get more energy out of it than the energy you put into it. In this case it might (for example) take 10 horsepower worth of radio frequency energy to extract 6 horsepower worth of hydrogen. So instead of a bank of huge batteries driving the motors that turn the wheels you have an even bigger bank of batteries generating the radio frequency waves that separate the hydrogen to burn in an engine to turn the wheels. But the energy to power the rf generator still has to come from somewhere.

The only reason that gasoline and other petroleum products give the ILLUSION of something for nothing is that millions of years worth of solar energy went into the "manufacture" of each gallon of gasoline. We are simply harvesting that stored energy. There is no such stored energy in salt water.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 03:55 PM
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2. If the separation can be achieved without the recombination...
...It might prove a useful way of generating hydrogen for plant and vehicles. It might even be applicable to on-site generation at filling stations and suchlike.

The cancer treatment application sounds bloody interesting too. A mainstream variant is to have the same "cancer seekers" transport radioactive atoms to the cancers. If one can work then so can the other, and the radio-frequency therapy, if it works, would be safer still.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-26-07 04:26 PM
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3. Not another one.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=115&topic_id=97448&mesg_id=97528

How many times do we have to read that someone has "discovered" an elementary fact that can be found in any chemistry textbook? WATER CAN BE SPLIT INTO H2 AND O2 BY AN ELECTRIC CURRENT. This has been known for nearly ***TWO CENTURIES***!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrolysis_of_water
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