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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:35 AM
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Did the suspect committing suicide screw up McCain's "October Surprise"?
It seems odd ... you didn't know anything about the years-long investigation of the very limited number of suspects who could have had access to "weapons-grade" anthrax ...

and suddenly, one "suspect" commits suicide.

Suddenly, the "news" is that this person was "about to be arrested" for the "terrorist attack" using anthrax. How long was it going to be? Two months?

It's easy to pin all the ills of the world on a guy who cannot defend himself NOW ...

"Oh, that was the guy we were about to arrest for the attacks. Well, case closed."

Now, if he hadn't committed suicide, would he have been arrested in October, instead of being revealed now?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:55 AM
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1. I was just about to post on this.
How convenient! Everyone that could provide an explanation for the "shit that happened" ends up killing themselves. From Enron and Anthrax to the DC Madam, it seems no one wants to live. The last I heard, the FBI had determined that the anthrax did not come from Ft. Detrick. Suddenly, we are told they were seeking the death penalty. I'll bet the guy took Tylenol RS (rat shot strength) before hanging himself in his mother's tool shed.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but then we'll never know, will we?
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 09:57 AM
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2. Why did it take so long to identify this guy?
Who else could it have been? There can't be that many anthrax experts. There just isn't that much demand for anthrax expertise.
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Mabus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 10:00 AM
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3. I still think the October Surprise will be from outside the US
If it were inside the US it is too close and could raise questions. Besides, a threat from somewhere else would help justify further misuse of the military. Also, if something comes from without, it is harder for us to examine and question. We'd end up getting most of our information from the government and filtered through the corporate media.

And, if anything, the suicide now takes the story off the table later this year. This means that the story is dead and the victims - mostly Dems and symbols of the so-called liberal media - won't be talked about. In other words, the American public won't have to remember that the only biological attacks that took place were done here in the US, by someone working for our government, and the victims were those that the GOP and conservatives called the enemy.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-16-08 11:18 PM
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5. I would not doubt it---Homeland Security is fucking LAX---get Chertoff the hell out of there!
see my post on National Security forum from today.
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Peace Patriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-01-08 11:11 AM
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4. Two other unnatural deaths this week
Aide to Sen. Jim Webb - Fred Hutchins July 29, found dead next to his car with a bullet through his head.

AF Brigadier General Thomas Tinsley, July 28, dead from bullet to the chest. Commander of Alaska AF base. He was 22 months Exec Offcr to Gen Buzz Moseley (AF Chief of Staff) who, along with AF Sec Michael Wynne, was forced to resign when the nuke warhead incident out of Minot AF base in ND got leaked to the press (apparently by AF officers). 6 nuke warheads crossed the country from Minot to Barksdale AF in LA "by mistake" (and I've read reports that one of them never arrived). Also, incidents of crews on nuke watch falling asleep "for hours."

Tinfoil hatters--including yours truly--suspect that these nuke incidents were not incompetence, but may have been part of a plot to misuse nuke bombs for political or 'bomb-bomb Iran' purposes. There were at least 3 suspicious deaths of Minot air base maintenance airmen or pilots for B-52 Stratofortresses clustered within weeks of the Aug 07 nuke warhead incident, just before or after. Add Tinsley--yet another unnatural death connected to that incident--and you've got to wonder.

And this third death from "unnatural causes" THIS WEEK--the Anthrax case 'suicide' (Bruce Ivins)--has got to make you wonder about a number of possible "October Surprises" (and/or people getting whacked who were trying to prevent them, or who could whistle-blow on these or other nefarious deeds).

Both the Hutchins and Tinsley deaths have caused great bewilderment in their communities. Ivins' death (Anthrax case) was attributed by at least one colleague to the stress of the 7-year long investigation. Pressured suicide is one way of whacking somebody.
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BridgeTheGap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Aug-27-08 02:04 PM
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6. Another American born "terrrorist" bites the dust? Always interesting how the repubs &
neocons kept saying: "There haven't been any terrorist attacks since 9/11" conveniently dropping out the anthrax attacks (against Dem legislators & the media). And we now are told that a high ranking FEDERAL employee was responsible for those "terrorist" acts!
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