Islam online: US Troops Reportedly Gassing Fallujah

I know nothing about this website but I found the news disturbing and I dearly hope it's not true.

http://www.islam-online.net/English/News/2004-11/10/article05.shtml

"“The US occupation troops are gassing resistance fighters and confronting them with internationally-banned chemical weapons,” resistance sources told Al-Quds Press Wednesday, November 10.

The fatal weapons led to the deaths of tens of innocent civilians, whose bodies litter sidewalks and streets, they added.

“They use chemical weapons out of despair and helplessness in the face of the steadfast and fierce resistance put up by Fallujah people, who drove US troops out of several districts, hoisting proudly Iraqi flags on them. Resistance has also managed to destroy and set fire to a large number of US tanks and vehicles.

“The US troops have sprayed chemical and nerve gases on resistance fighters, turning them hysteric in a heartbreaking scene,” an Iraqi doctor, who requested anonymity, told Al-Quds Press.

“Some Fallujah residents have been further burnt beyond treatment by poisonous gases,” added resistance fighters, who took part in Golan battles, northwest of Fallujah."

I don't know if this has been mentioned already or not. I didn't see any threads on it.

this is going to work out well
/sarcasm:eyes:

Sorry, I don't buy it.

There's probably a kernel of truth to it anyway. I wouldn't be surprised if they are using tear gas.

" I wouldn't be surprised if they are using tear gas."

Isn't that a banned substance?

I remember vaguely the MOD saying that they will refuse to work with US troops on operations where they carry or deploy tear gas.

"We" make the rules now. Banned substances? Feh ... </sarcasm>

Anyway, as I said, it wouldn't surprise me. Consider the Iraqi officer who "disappeared" once he saw the details of the plan. However, I of course don't know.

It makes you miserable for a while though.

Sorry, I don't buy this... the Marines/Army are using all sorts of smoke grenades, etc... nice try though, propaganda warriors (not you poster, the writer of the article)

Islam-online.net doesn't carry much weight with me.

your own people that your evil.

I just really can't believe the US population is putting up with this.

Hope hope hope.

It seems to be in short supply these days.

but it was a type of intentional fire that gives off a white smoke and cannot be put out with water. People have been burned pretty badly apparently. I cannot for the life of me remember what she called the stuff that is burning...

Oh, she also said we bombed a medical clinic.

I will check for a source asap, I will update with a link...


edit to add:

I came pretty close. I have never heard of this being a banned weapon, but it seems eerily similar in appearance to the bad stuff. no doubt it could be confused with nerve gas. I think a lot more shit goes on than we are told about or find out.

U.S. Reportedly Firing White Phosphorous Rounds
The Washington Post reports that the U.S. has begun firing white phosphorous rounds that create a screen of fire that cannot be extinguished with water. Iraqi doctors are reporting that corpses are being brought into the hospital with their skin melted -- a reaction consistent with white phosphorous burns.

Report: 20 Medics Killed in Clinic Bombing
The city's medical system is in shambles. The Chinese news agency Xinhua is reporting that dozens of Iraqis, including 20 medics, were killed when the US bombed a medical clinic in Fallujah yesterday. The clinic was just erected to substitute for the main hospital which was seized by the U.S. on Monday. One doctor told Reuters "There is not a single surgeon in Fallujah. We had one ambulance hit by US fire and a doctor wounded. There are scores of injured civilians in their homes whom we can't move. A 13-year-old child just died in my hands."


here is the link:
http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/11/10/1536241

<snip>Some of the victims were demonstrators. Some were children in their homes, trying to get away from the gas seeping under the door. Some were old men walking down the street. One of the victims was a thirteen year-old boy, playing in a schoolyard when a gas canister enveloped him in a cloud of poisonous smoke. (1) Like many of the others, he suffered recurring severe convulsions for days.

Ambulance drivers responding to one of the gas attacks found people on the street jumping around, thrashing their limbs in uncontrollable spasms. The victims seemed unaware of their actions and surroundings. One driver said, "If they had anything in their hand - a woman carrying her child might throw him down without realizing it. She'd just drop him and start clawing at herself from the gas." Many adults were required to restrain each violently convulsing victim. (2)
<snip>
more
http://www.dissidentvoice.org/Articles/Brooks_NesZiona.htm

About two or three days ago. CNN SAID they were firing
Phosphorus rounds and then described a picture that
was shown and CLEARLY SAID this stuff will burn through anything it hits and cannot be distinguished.

Of course they didn't mention that it was hitting people.

That was the first thing I thought of.... what are they doing to the people?? Before this, I guess they only had to worry about being blown up or shot or crushed by their houses falling in on them.

Ths stuff burns through the houses and then gets ya.
And no hospitals are worth anything in Fallujah, since we bombed them first.

While using white phosphorus as an anti-personel weapon is against the geneva conventions, using it tactically to make smoke or destroy materiel is not.

“The US troops have sprayed chemical and nerve gases on resistance fighters..."

If we were, our men would be in chemical suits.

"The reported gassing stands as a grim reminder of Saddam Hussein's alleged gassing of the Kurdish community in the northern city of Halbja in 1988."

Right.

I would echo the sentiments of others that this is propaganda.

A white phosphorus grenade will melt through an engine block like a hot knife through butter. It's hard to grasp just how hot it is. Pouring water on WP is just going to create a cloud of scalding steam. I can see some people getting burned while trying to extinguishing those fires. However, this is no violation of the geneva conventions, and it surely isn't chemical warfare.

When in a war zone. Whatever is going on, it must be hell on civilians.

"They use chemical weapons out of despair and helplessness in the face of the steadfast and fierce resistance put up by Fallujah people, who drove US troops out of several districts, hoisting proudly Iraqi flags on them. ", because it is so very improbable.

Why should we believe anything else they have to say?

it's use is prohibited,by 1980 Geneva accord,which of course, US not
signed up to, so yes "confronting them with internationally-banned chemical weapons" is correct.


White-phosphorous in use on Monday night.

See also new,improved napalm;
http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2003/030810-napalm-iraq01.htm

Depleted uranium;
http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99993627

70% of the human body is water. White phospherous is nasty stuff.

Edit: I just looked it up on google. I didn't see anything about the water. However, they say the smoke is relatively safe, although it is recognized as an air pollutante by the EPA because it iritates the lungs and throat.

http://riverbendblog.blogspot.com/

"People in Falloojeh are being murdered. The stories coming back are horrifying. People being shot in cold blood in the streets and being buried under tons of concrete and iron... where is the world? Bury Arafat and hurry up and pay attention to what's happening in Iraq."