Injunction Issued Against Concealed Weapon Law (MO)

I'm not sure if this should be in the "Guns in the News" thread because it's about a law, not a firearm incident - Karan

http://www.ksdk.com/news/news_article_lc.asp?storyid=48277

A St. Louis Circuit Court decided Friday that Missouri's concealed weapons law will not go in effect Saturday, October 11. Judge Steven Ohmer made his ruling at 4:00 Friday afternoon. Opponents of the concealed carry law say the law's wording was vague and that a clause in the Missouri constitution bans concealed weapons.

The concealed carry law would allow people to apply for a permit to carry a weapon after they've finished training, a background check, and been fingerprinted.

Both sides agree, that with an injunction in place against the new concealed weapons law, the issue will most likely be decided by the Missouri Supreme Court.

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this entire mess is to accommodate 60,000 specimens...1.06% of Missouri's population...AGAINST the wishes of Miissouri voters.

a true democracy is one in which the unpopular, but morally correct, viewpoint has a chance at becoming law...like in MO.

"For the past decade, the NRA has been on a mission to arm America by allowing citizens to carry concealed, loaded handguns in public. In Missouri, their effort stalled because of Governor Mel Carnahan. He vowed to veto the NRA-backed bill if it did not allow a referendum. The NRA finally took the challenge in the 1998 legislative session. The NRA wrote the proposed law and picked a special election date that would work for them. They then spent more than $ 4 million in an effort to pass their initiative, known as Proposition B. One of the NRA’s best friends, then-Senator and current NRA Life Member John Ashcroft, did radio ads supporting Proposition B. By election day, April 6, 1999, the NRA had spent more than five times as much money as the opponents of Proposition B. But a funny thing happened on the way to the polls. The NRA lost. They couldn’t buy off and control the people of Missouri like they controlled their legislators in Jefferson City.
After this stunning loss -- which came despite the NRA’s almost total control over the process (except, of course, for the final outcome) -- the organization blamed Mel Carnahan. According to the Saint Louis Post-Dispatch, "The NRA's James J. Baker blamed Carnahan for the outcome, accusing him of meddling in a race into which the NRA had poured more than $3.7 million. 'Governor Carnahan injected his own personal views into this democratic initiative process.'" NRA Spokesman Bill Powers told the, " did everything he could do to defeat this measure....This crosses the line to where it becomes a mistrust of the people of the state." Only an organization so adept at thwarting the public interest could interpret a defeat in a public referendum in such a way. "
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/03/09/16_sudbay.html
"State Sen. Jon Dolan, a Republican and a major in the Army National Guard, had been serving at Guantanamo Bay for only two weeks, and military regulations say a newly deployed soldier must be on duty at least two months before getting a leave.
Also at issue is whether Dolan violated federal law and military regulations by performing duties of his political office while on active military duty. The rules apply to a reserve officer serving on active duty under a call to active duty of more than 270 days. "

http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGANL2GUIKD.html

"Top Senate Republicans arranged and paid for the travel for state Sen. Jon Dolan, who flew from Cuba to Jefferson City last week to cast crucial votes to override Gov. Bob Holden's vetoes.
Dolan's travel expenses - which included chartering a private jet - came to almost $8,200 and were handled by aides to state Senate President Pro Tem Peter Kinder, R-Cape Girardeau.
The total bill was paid by the Senate Majority Fund, a campaign committee set up to handle various expenses for the Legislature's Republican leaders.
Kinder's staff began working on travel arrangements for Dolan weeks ago, even before he left for Cuba for Army National Guard duty. "

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/News/Missouri+State+News/BBDF9516F306EBEB86256DA30051DBAB?OpenDocument&Headline=GOP+fund+paid+for+Dolan



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when you have ten wolves and one lamb and the wolves take a vote on what is for dinner. :)

"this entire mess is to accommodate 60,000 specimens...1.06% of Missouri's population...AGAINST the wishes of Miissouri voters."

Here's a even far more ridiculous situation.

Remember this entire gun control mess is to accommodate 28,000 specimens....0.0001% of the entire US population. The majority (approx. 2/3rds) being suicides, which the MAJORITY of people don't consider so much a firearms problem as they do a SUICIDE problem. So that leaves less than 9,000 people (0.000032% of entire US population) excluding the accidents that are murdered by guns. The MAJORITY of these being criminals killing other criminals.

The less than 9,000 people (0.000032% of entire US population)<,> excluding the accidents<,> that are murdered by guns are the only issue. ?

Not suicide -- not the suicides of children, the depressed elderly, the mentally ill; not the terrorizing of women (and their children) by their abusive partners, who all too often kill them (and their children); not those accidental deaths, all too often of children, so cavalierly dismissed. And certainly not any of the injuries in shootings, whether intentional, negligent or accidental, where no actual death resulted. Not even to mention the crimes facilitated by firearms.

That idea may indeed be ridiculous, but more to the point, it's a fine example of some people's "morality".

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That the right of every citizen to keep and bear arms in defense of his home, person and property, or when lawfully summoned in aid of the civil power, shall not be questioned; but this shall not justify the wearing of concealed weapons.
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If the MO Supreme Court rules that the state constitution did prohibit CCW, then Missouri citizens could exercise RKBA by bearing unconcealed weapons.

It merely says that the law doesn't protect it.

"If the MO Supreme Court rules that the state constitution did prohibit CCW, then Missouri citizens could exercise RKBA by bearing unconcealed weapons."

Yeah. And if the constitution prohibited driving on the sidewalk, then citizens could exercise their right to liberty by driving through your living room.

http://www.jabberwacky.com/JTReply?B137883

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