Assault weapons ban in nebraska

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why do people keep trying to puch these things- especially in places where it almost has no chance of passing

He switched from being a Dem several years ago.

Who's running against him? Let's boot this guy!

Sometimes we just have to battle uphill against idiocy.

as assault weapons make up a small percentage of gun crime.

He's a Republican, which right now means he's an authoritian and/or a fascist. As such, he really things that us becoming fascists is for the public good. Authoritarians and fascists like having diarmed subjects because armed citizens might be inconvenient to authoritarniansim and fascism and thus the public good.

You don't really thing a Republican is actually trying to fight crime, do you? When the War on Drugs keeps so many poor and minorities from voting while simultaniously giving the government increased enforcement powers?

Please.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Misleading_vividness

"Assault weapons" which (this week) means "a semiauto rifle with military features like a pistol grip, detachable magazine, and flash hider" were used in 0.18% of all firearm crime in the United States last year, according to Kleck.

As such, misguided laws like this one are an example of

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_panic

and aren't actually seeking to control crime at all.

Moreover, Bill Clinton knows that laws banning "assault weapons" lose Democrats elections, because he said this in 2004:

"The fight for the assault weapons ban cost 20 members their seats in Congress."

I am glad that the sponsor of this legislation is not a Dem, so we have a chance to replace him with a pro-gun Dem.

Except for the pesky little detail that all rifles combined (including so-called "assault weapons") accounted for exactly 1 murder in Nebraska in 2006. Small-caliber rifles with modern styling are not a crime problem in Nebraska or anywhere else.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_20.html

Nebraska stats:

Total murders................................16
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)........7
Handguns......................................2
Firearms (type unknown).......................2
Edged weapons.................................2
Hands, fists, feet, etc.......................2
Rifles........................................1
Shotguns......................................0

National stats:

Total murders............................14,990.....100.00%
Handguns..................................7,795......52.00%
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)....2,158......14.40%
Edged weapons.............................1,822......12.15%
Firearms (type unknown)...................1,465.......9.77%
Hands, fists, feet, etc.....................833.......5.56%
Shotguns....................................481.......3.21%
Rifles......................................436.......2.91%


Yeah, tell me about it.

"The original bill did not mention rapid fire weapons, the new bill does."

What the heck is a "rapid fire" weapon? Are they talking about fully-automatic weapons, which are already heavily regulated and never used in crime, or semi-automatic weapons?

"Ashford wants to create a blue ribbon, Assault Weapons Commission, that will report back to the Legislature by next February 1st."

What the heck is a "blue ribbon" commission?

"The commission would list which specific assault weapons should be banned."

This was tried once before. All the manufacturers will do is change the names of the weapons and "presto", you've just dodged the law. The name of a gun does not make it dangerous.

I just called Senator Ashford's office (402-471-2622) and asked for a list of the specific assault weapons under consideration for the ban. The fellow who answered the phone stuttered out, "Uh, well, uh it's not actually a ban...right now there is a fact finding commission meeting in private to discuss it..."

I gave the fellow my email address and asked him to send me a list of the specific firearms under consideration for the ban and what the criteria is to make the list. We'll see if they respond.

we decide the following guns need to be banned
AR-15
AK-47
M14
Steyr Aug- even though it has never been used in a crime in like 15 years
Uzi- because no one has been shot with an uzi in nebraska


its the same shit....he knows its not going to pass....and it just pisses me off that they try it

Has an M-14 or a civilian clone ever been used in a crime? Civilian versions of battle rifles almost never show up in criminal acts (Even less than civilian versions of assault rifles), yet they get banned purely due to a badass appearance.

Particularly the Nebraska stats.

http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/cius2006/data/table_20.html

Nebraska stats:

Total murders................................16
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)........7
Handguns......................................2
Firearms (type unknown).......................2
Edged weapons.................................2
Hands, fists, feet, etc.......................2
Rifles........................................1
Shotguns......................................0

National stats:

Total murders............................14,990.....100.00%
Handguns..................................7,795......52.00%
Other weapons (non firearm, non edged)....2,158......14.40%
Edged weapons.............................1,822......12.15%
Firearms (type unknown)...................1,465.......9.77%
Hands, fists, feet, etc.....................833.......5.56%
Shotguns....................................481.......3.21%
Rifles......................................436.......2.91%

...which lumps together hunting rifles with semi-auto weapons with military styling.

IIRC the #2 rifle used is the M16/AR15 style, but I'm betting that's more a function of popularity than any inherent features - the #1 gun (by a factor of 2 I think, no time to check stats now, I'll get them in a bit) is the classic lever-action 30-30, which I don't hear anybody besides Teddy Kennedy trying to ban..

There was only 1 rifle murder in Nebraska in 2006, so there can't be a second-place make/model.

If you are speaking of rifles used in homicides nationally, #1 is the lowly .22LR, if I remember the results of the BATFE Youth Crime Gun Interdiction Survey results accurately.

Ah, yes. Here we go...looked it up.

The most traced rifle was the lowly .22, not any sort of "assault weapon," even despite the inevitable Von Restorff bias in the trace data. The most commonly traced long gun was the 12-gauge pump shotgun, i.e. hunting style, which (unlike a self-loading rifle) will still function if sawed off, making it much easier to conceal than even a folding-stocked rifle.



A rough guide to the rifle calibers, for any non-gunnies in the thread:

.22 - mostly not "assault weapons" (rimfire target rifles, squirrel hunting rifles, etc.).

7.62mm - a mix of hunting guns, non-"AW" target guns, and some "assault weapons"; .308 Winchester is 7.62x51mm, and includes tons of hunting guns, plus FAL, CETME, and HK "assault weapons"; 7.62x39mm includes the Ruger Mini Thirty deer rifle, the SKS (either an "assault weapon" or not, depending on who you ask), and most civilian AK lookalikes.

.30-30 - hunting weapons exclusively; there are no "assault weapons" in this caliber.

.223 - a mix, but mostly "assault weapons"; this caliber includes the Ruger Mini-14 and the AR-15 platform. This is the least powerful of common centerfire rifle calibers, FWIW.

9mm (pistol caliber) - this includes carbines that fire the little 9mm pistol cartridge, and would include a mix of non-"assault weapons" (Marlin Camp Carbine, Ruger PC9, etc.) and "assault weapons" (the old Feather AT-9, civilian Uzi lookalikes with shoulder stocks).

.30-06 - high-powered hunting rifles (most popular deer caliber in America); mostly bolt-actions, but also includes some semiauto Brownings and the Remington 7400 (not "assault weapons") and the 1930's vintage M1 Garand (either an "assault weapon" or not, depending on who you ask).

So I don't think AR-15's are very high in the crime stats (the overwhelming majority of AR-15 type rifles are .223 Remington, which accounted for barely 3% of long gun traces).