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M24PS90 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 01:49 AM
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A different challenge for the Anti-gun crowd
Edited on Wed May-21-08 02:03 AM by M24PS90
I challenge people here to show me EVEN one post where a gun owner said they want to "blow someone away" or that they can't wait to use their guns to "blast someones brains out".

I lay this challenge down because I have noticed an alarming number of antis using those phrases and I can't recall one of the Pro-gun crowd doing so.

I have been reading this forum for almost a year now and for the life of me I cannot recall even one time where they ever even suggested such a thing.

So who is to fear more? Those who own guns but don't think or talk about killing people? Or should we fear those who are obsessed with guns (and that is what many of the antis in DU are) who only think and talk about blowing someone away?

Just a thought and an honest challenge.

:shrug:
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:25 AM
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1. Don't forget that
for a police state to succeed in repressing the people they must insure that the people have no guns. Gun control is one of the first steps toward a police state.

What was it Ben Franklin said about those who would give up freedom for the sake of safety deserving neither?

If YOU want to be safe from guns, don't buy one, stay away from bars and bad tempered people who own guns, and stay out of areas where shooting are frequent. Then you'll be as safe as you possibly can be. All it takes to stay relatively safe is some common sense, and paying attention to possible risk factors.

Don't let the government us a few isolated incidents of gun violence be the excuse for confiscating citizen's guns like they use a few isolated terrorist attacks as an excuse for confiscating our right to privacy and our right to habeas corpus. This hysterical fear mongering is just a thinly veiled justification for disarming the population so they can be more readily controlled and herded without putting any resistance.

Bush yells "terror! terror!", and takes away our rights. Those who would strip us of our ability to defend ourselves from the government yell "Oh My God, somebody got shot!", to take away our rights.

Here's the facts: People fall off ladders and die. People crash their cars and die. People get bit by rattlesnakes and die. People get brutally beaten and die. People get stabbed and die. People open their own veins with razor blades and die. People choke on chicken sandwiches and die. People get shot and die. People grab the hair dryer while standing in the bathtub and get electrocuted and die. People fall through plate glass windows and die. People eat junk food until their arteries get so clogged they die. And on, and on, and on.

Does this mean we should outlaw ladders, and cars, and rattlesnakes, and baseball bats, and steak knives, and razor blades, and chicken sandwiches, and guns, and hair dryers, and plate glass windows, and junk food?

Disclosure: I owned a rifle for a few years right after I left the Air Force which I used only for recreational target shooting. (I couldn't imagine shooting an animal, unless it were absolutely necessary for my own survival.) Since then I have not owned a gun of any kind for the last 42 years. I don't really like guns, and I don't really want to have one. But I would be profoundly suspicious of a government that abridged my right to own a gun if I so choose.

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M24PS90 Donating Member (21 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 02:30 AM
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2. That is one of the Best threads I have ever read!
I could not agree with you more! Here is to you:toast:
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WWFZD Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-21-08 05:26 AM
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3. I second that,
well said.
We have what 11,000 murders annually in this huge, diverse, free (for now) country of 300M people. It would suck if me, a family member or a friend was murdered with a gun, and I have lost a friend to a murder with a gun, but if you avoid high-risk situations like the drug trade, use a little common sense and as you described "bad tempered people who own guns, and stay out of areas where shooting are frequent" you truly have little to worry about. Our idiotic drug laws and enforcement policies are another topic entirely but you chances of being a victim of random gun violence are minuscule and that has to be balanced with an inherent natural right ensconced in the Bill of Rights. We've lost the first, fourth and fifth, let's reverse this trend rather than looking for another amendment to gut.
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