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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:36 PM
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Washington Post- D.C. Woman Sues Over Gun Finish
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/03/09/AR2009030903240.html

U.S. DISTRICT COURT
Handgun's Color Leads to Lawsuit

By Martin Weil
Washington Post Staff Writer
Tuesday, March 10, 2009; Page B04

A D.C. woman filed suit in U.S. District Court yesterday, claiming that the city would not let her register a pistol because of its color.

Tracey A. Hanson argued that her application to register a .45-caliber semiautomatic was denied because the gun is not on the California Safe Handgun Roster, which is the standard in the city.

Hanson tried to register a two-tone, stainless steel/black pistol, according to the suit. But the list has that model in olive drab green, dark earth or black, not in two-tone, stainless/black, the suit asserts. Hanson said rejection for that reason "seemed so arbitrary."

The lawsuit, which lists Hanson and two other people as plaintiffs, was filed by Alan Gura, who argued the Supreme Court case that overturned the city's handgun ban. Arbitrary requirements bring "nonsensical results," Gura said. The suit asks that the city be barred from enforcing gun regulations based on the California list....


Wow. Expect DC to get dope-slapped by the courts again, and if they work it juuust right they can get
the CA Safe Handgun Register done away with as being unconstitutional, as well.

Tinfoil hat question for Gungeon readers: Do you think there might be moles working to get
DC to use such spectacularly counterproductive legal approaches regarding guns?

Or are they just that stupid?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:42 PM
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1. Gun-grabbers are strong on emotional hype and short on facts. They keep rolling the same old ball:
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:02 PM
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4. haha funny comic
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corruptmewithpower Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 07:59 PM
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2. Bureaucrats should be held criminally accountable when they
harass people.
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yay Donating Member (509 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:02 PM
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3. WOW.......
amazing how retarded people can be sometimes.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:06 PM
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5. That thought had crossed my mind (how STUPID can the D.C. council be?)
but in this case, I think it IS stupidity compounded by abject prejudice. This IS the same city council that for years defined a non-automatic civilian pistol with a 7-round magazine as a "machinegun."
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Jackson1999 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 01:00 AM
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13. You have no idea....

I live in DC. This not the half of it.
I bugged the member who put forth the training amendment (from the whitest and wealthiest part of DC, of course) to ask why it made sense to require that I travel out to Virginia or Maryland to take a 5 hour course on how to fire a HANDGUN in order to own a shotgun in my home. I was told basically, "well, because all guns are dangerous."

I can register a rifle that is 30" or one that is 34". But can I register one with a stock that adjusts to either 30" or 34"? Of course not.

Oh and lets not forget the extra trip you need to MPD for the ballistics testing. You see in order to fight crime, DC has implemented a ballistics testing program just like Maryland---except Maryland reported last year that it has not helped them solve one crime and has cost $2 million.

I sometimes feel like the DC Council acts like a spoiled rich child. They have freedom to do stupid things, because they know their "daddy" will step in if things get too out of hand. Time for them to get spanked.
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Furyataurus Donating Member (142 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:18 PM
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6. Too bad the
anti's and gun grabbers out number the pro-gun right's group in that city. With D.C. withdrawing their bill to have a seat in the House it just goes to show how far they are willing to go to continue to thumb their nose at the Supreme court ruling.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 08:34 PM
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7. City councils are a bastion of stupidity.
I would expect D.C. to be no better than anywhere else.
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:06 PM
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8. Never underestimate the stupidity of those we elect. (n/t)
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:09 PM
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9. Sound like a Springfield Armory XD to me?
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 09:12 PM by pipoman
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 09:58 AM
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18. That's what I was thinking.
n/t
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pipoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-12-09 12:17 AM
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19. Yep, it was in fact an XD according to the filing linked in post #14
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:28 PM
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10. California law allows handguns that differ only in finish from "approved" models
DC is just jacking people around.
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LuisCipher Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-10-09 09:29 PM
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11. Stupid is...
Edited on Tue Mar-10-09 09:30 PM by LuisCipher
....as stupid does.

Meanwhile, directly across the Potomac River, within walking distance to this; I can carry a pistol on my hip, openly and fully exposed with no permit or permission from any Govt entity and its perfectly legal and unquestioned.

Long live Virginia.

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Jackson1999 Donating Member (320 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 12:52 AM
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12. this is not the half of it
I have the privilege to call DC home so I am living this nonsense. The article didn't touch on the other plaintiffs. Get this, one of them attempted to register the exact same Buntline revolver that Dick Heller did and was DENIED! Yes, they denied the same gun that SCOTUS ordered that DC register. I guess every resident will have to go to SCOTUS to get their gun registered.

Seriously, the city should pay Alan Gura $1000 and have him tell the council what the laws should look like.

It infuriates me that the Coucil's incompetence has jeopardized our move for voting representation.
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friendly_iconoclast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 03:44 AM
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14. Found a link to a copy of the original filing
Here:
http://www.hoffmang.com/firearms/dc-roster/Hanson-v-DC-Complaint-2009-03-09.pdf

And it is as bad as Jackson1999 says it is

Seems the DC Council takes William Westmoreland and the Boston School Commitee circa
1972 as their role models...
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Indy Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 05:41 AM
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15. WOW, really bad lawmaking
How can you base your laws on the laws of an outside jurisdiction?

How lazy, make up your own safe handgun list, even if you just copy the California list.

You never base one specification on another specification. It only leads to trouble.
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dashrif Donating Member (353 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:18 AM
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17. Your right
And now California will have its law dragged in to scotus, I bet they love that. Ha Ha! I just don't understand how politicians don't feel accountable to their constituents any more?
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Tim01 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-11-09 07:14 AM
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16. Oh, I definitely think they are that stupid.
And worse. It isn't just stupid, its arrogance. They still kind of think they don't have to do what the Supreme Court says.
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