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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 12:57 PM
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Pittsburgh Cop shooter stood over fallen cop - pumped more lead into him.
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_619348.html

After shooting the first two police officers who answered a 911 call at his Stanton Heights home early yesterday, Richard Poplawski stood over one of the fallen officers and pumped two or three more bullets into his body, police reported in court papers filed this morning.
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ClarkUSA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:01 PM
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1. This sociopath will spend the rest of his life in prison kicked around by prison guards...



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geckosfeet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:24 PM
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9. The rest of his life. May it be long and full of physical and emotional anguish.
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doctor jazz Donating Member (474 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:04 PM
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2. coup de grace
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:04 PM
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3. this guy was sick
he went "cop hunting"
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:23 PM
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8. This guy knew exactly what he was doing. Bulletproof vest, ambush and a story
to back up his behavior- "patriotic", "defending himself and the 2nd amendment". Bullshit dirty son of a bitch right wing ugly political agenda. He should be electrocuted. He left widows and children without fathers. I live near Pittsburgh - we see what the right wing agenda can do.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:42 PM
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13. he did more to hurt the
"second amendment cause" than help it

i'm almost never for the death penalty but in this case i feel that it might be the only just punishment for an individual who does such a thing
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:49 PM
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14. That's right. He is the kind of guy that makes regular gun owners angry. My
cousin is a "gun nut" (we call him that in joking with him) and he is extremely angry like me because this makes regular gun enthusiasts look like idiots. The bullshit about Obama taking away all the guns is right wing garbage.
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ConcernedCanuk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:06 PM
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21. Much of what you say here applies to the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan
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It seems the truckloads of Afghans shot and buried in the deserts are forgotten.

The thousands - tens of thousand of innocent Iraqis abused and slaughtered,

but I see more outrage not just here on this board, but also in the media, about a dozen or so USAmericans killed at home.

I doubt many in the Middle East would have much sympathy.

Something to ponder.
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 05:24 PM
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22. You are wrong here
I mourn for any senseless loss of life. It dosen't matter if it is in Iraq, Afganistan, Israel, Iran, Nazi Germany, the USSR, current day Mexico and on and on and on.

The only common theme is that all it requires is the evil of man.

The other thing is that

'All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing’
Sir Edmund Burke
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 09:42 PM
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29. Yes; being here in Pittsburgh has me sensitve today.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:10 PM
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4. Why didn't the mother give the police a "heads up" as to what kind of person they were dealing with?
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:12 PM
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5. She called the cops to kick her son out. 
The argument was over his dog urinating in the house.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:36 PM
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18. I read that, but it also said he started stock piling weapons and didn't like the police, if
she had told them that, they may have been better prepared.:shrug:
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roughsatori Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:18 PM
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6. "The suspect's mother let them in, saying 'come and take his ass,'"
It is being reported in local papers that he was wearing a bullet-proof jacket.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:37 PM
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19. see post #18
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:22 PM
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7. Guns solve everything n/t
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:25 PM
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10. "Peacemakers". "Equalizers" . That's what that guy seemed to think.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:27 PM
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11. It's too bad someone broke the law by furnishing him with firearms
There is no way he acquired one legally.
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 01:31 PM
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12. Do you mean the semiautomatic or whatever it was?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 02:46 PM
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15. Whatever it was, it was illegal for him to possess it or or any person to transfer it to him
Edited on Sun Apr-05-09 02:53 PM by slackmaster
Among the classes of people defined by the Gun Control Act of 1968 as ineligible to have a firearm are individuals who have been dishonorably discharged from the military.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:20 PM
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16. I see a number of ways around that
1. He may not have been dishonorably discharged. We are relying on secondhand accounts of that.
2. He may have owned it before. Does he have to turn it in?
3. Are there not exceptions and loopholes? Like gun shows?

What if someone tried to tighten the loopholes?
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:35 PM
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17. All good points
1. He may not have been dishonorably discharged. We are relying on secondhand accounts of that.
2. He may have owned it before. Does he have to turn it in?
3. Are there not exceptions and loopholes? Like gun shows?


The only thing is, there is no such thing as a gun show loophole. Any dealer selling at a gun show is required by law to do an NICS check for any weapon they sell. If they do not it would be the same as if they didn't do it at their actual gun store. Against the law.

Now if a private person sold him the gun at a gun show, it would be another story. Private sellers do not have access to the NICS phone system. It would be as if they made the sale at their own home, out of the back of their car or anywherre else. I have absolutely no problem with giving the private sector access to the NICS system.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:55 PM
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23. Nothing you mentioned is a loophole
Federal law prohibits transferring a firearm to someone who has been dishonorably discharged from the military. There are no exceptions.

Federal law prohibits someone who has been dishonorably discharged from possessing a firearm. There are no exceptions.

There are no exceptions for transactions that happen at gun shows.

No loopholes, just problems with enforcement.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 07:58 PM
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24. He may not have been dishonorably discharged.
There are many other ways out of the Marines.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:09 PM
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25. Every account I've read so far says he was dishonorably discharged
Please provide a link to any evidence to the contrary.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:12 PM
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26. There was just a second hand story from a friend.
Edited on Sun Apr-05-09 08:13 PM by MrPerson
I've seen that jumped on by the gun supporters.

But I'll believe it when I see someone quoting a govt. official.

Maybe tomorrow.

I have linked both Pittsburgh news stories before, BTW.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:15 PM
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27. For throwing a tray at a drill instructor?
They probably had a talk with him and he left w/o a dishonorable discharge.
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MrPerson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 08:16 PM
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28. He had a court order in most of 2005 preventing ownership of guns.
I bet that was violated.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-05-09 03:56 PM
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20. Does the 2nd ammendment demand it?
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