Guns in the News, November 13, 2003 - (NO GUIDELINES)

Except one guideline, which is only a guideline, but I may have to crack the whip if you don't abide by it. And that guideline is:

- The story you post must have the word "gun","firearm","projectile launcher","rifle",etc in it.

So, feel free! Post away and discuss let's discuss the issues!

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BELLEVUE, Wash., Nov. 12 /U.S. Newswire/ -- After reaching several compromises on a concealed carry bill, Wisconsin lawmakers have hammered out a sensible package that Gov. Jim Doyle should sign, the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms (CCRKBA) said today.

CCRKBA Executive Director Joe Waldron noted that the compromise bill addresses several concerns raised by concealed carry opponents. While the final bill is not ideal, he called it "a reasonable first step," and urged Gov. Doyle to sign it, or allow it to become law automatically. If Gov. Doyle vetoes the bill, Waldron expressed hopes that the Legislature would override.

looks like they'll be swamped in the tide of bloody street shootouts involving CCW holders that has swept across all the other states in this nation that have shall-issue laws. Right? That's what the honest, good-hearted people at BC/MMM/VPC said was going to happen, and they just deal in facts. Right?

:evilgrin:

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On a quick reading of the story, I noticed that Miller said that he had grabbed his rifle when they got stuck in a shoot-it-out type situation. This means to me that Miller grabbed the standard-issue M-16 that has been Army and otherAmerican military branch issue since the Vietnam War.

And that answered the question in just a couple minutes' time, since the M-16 has always had this reputation of crapping out through jams just when you need it to work in the very worst way. The stories of our guys being found dead in Vietnam after firefights with a hopelessly jammed M-16 are legion, and apparently the so-called fixes the military put in place early on have not remedied the basic problem -- what we have in the M-16 is a basically inferior design as far as inherent ability to function under adverse conditions.

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A children's advocacy group and a physician have sued to get New Mexico's new conceal gun carry law declared unconstitutional.

The new law gives New Mexicans the right to carry concealed handguns beginning Jan. 1.

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Won't somebody PLEEEEEZE think of the children?

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Many buildings and businesses already have signs posted trying to prevent firearms from being brought in. Signs posted by private property owners must be at least 11 by 14 inches in size with 1-inch letters and clearly visible.

The consequences for violating the new law were a concern for many, including Douglas and Porter.

"If you have someone who intentionally violates the law, there isn't a thing you can do," Douglas said. "They get a $100 ticket and a nonfelony charge."

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"The people that get a permit are not the ones I am going to worry about," Scott said.

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This is from a HUGELY biased website, but.....I DON'T CARE! If you gun-grabbers have some stuff from the VPC, post away! No guidlines, remember?

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[br />Early reports from Columbus are that we had the second-highest 'Defense' Walk attendance to date, as over 120 OFCC supporters openly carried their firearms around the State Capitol today (plus probably 10-15 children who were, of course, not armed).

Political insiders know it is hard to get conservatives to hold any type of rally. And this was a very unique rally. Why?

Today's 'Defense' Walk was in the middle of the week, in the middle of the day, and in the middle of the state. To top it all off, we asked supporters to show up carrying a firearm.

"Even the reporters were amazed we got that many people out there on a weekday," said Gerard Valentino, OFCC's Central Ohio Coordinator. "I used it as an example of how strongly Ohioans believe in this issue."

The Ohioans for Concealed Carry is a great group. I am a proud member and activist. I have participated in a few of the dozen or so open-carry walks in the state. Unfortunately, I was unable to attend a middle-of-the-workday walk more than two hours away.

The statehouse walk yesterday was a great success. I'm cautiously optimistic that we can get a bill past our obstructionist Republican governor.

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The state Senate approved a revision of a bill Tuesday that would allow people who meet certain requirements to carry concealed weapons except to exempted places such as taverns.

Gov. Jim Doyle reiterated his opposition to the legislation, which he said was riddled with problems and would do nothing to improve safety in Wisconsin.

The Senate on a voice vote approved the bill, which the Assembly amended last week in an effort to generate more support among Democratic lawmakers. It now goes to Doyle for his consideration.

anyone has ever seen this...


http://www.tsra.com/selfdfns.htm

Over 50 defensive gun uses 09-01-03 to present. They weren't "valid" for the other daily "in the news" thread, because they dont often make it to the public eye until they were by definition "old news".

to the people who had to employ weapons in their defense. To them, I bet if feels as if it happened yesterday.

Locking.

Please continue here: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=22222&mesg_id=22222

(And please abide by the guidelines. Though they are not 'official,' they have been in place for a month now, without complaint.)