Detroit boy, 12, faces murder charge, possible life sentence, in shooting death of woman, 24

DETROIT - A 12-year-old Detroit boy accused of shooting a 24-year-old woman to death during a street robbery could face an adult murder sentence of life in prison without parole if he's convicted, authorities said Wednesday.

Demarco Harris was being held Wednesday at the Wayne County juvenile detention facility. Police said officers contacted the boy's father Friday, and the man brought his son in to be arrested.

According to police, the boy tried to rob Trisha Babcock, 24, of Davison, just after midnight on Aug. 1. She had come to Detroit seeking work as a dancer and was sitting in the driver's seat of a parked car when the boy pointed his gun at her and a struggle ensued, police said. He shot her once in the chest, police said, and she later died at a hospital.

Harris is charged with felony murder, armed robbery, having a firearm during a felony and violating curfew.

http://www.startribune.com/nation/53733887.html

:-(

and care for him for life? at $60,000 per year...X 60 years....= $3,600,000 if current costs remain same...add med costs too...

6o years we gonna be billed for a lot more than 10 mil...more like 2o mil....what a waste for us taxpayers....we need better ways to handle criminals to avoid more of this shit

Less than $100.

I am not saying that a 12 year should be executed, but what else are you going to do with him except lock him away. He will probably get out in his mid-20s at worst anyway (maybe even by the time he is 18).

Finding out how a 12 year got a gun is the first step. Also lets take a look at his family background.

Now that the kid has lots of time on his hands and access to educational opportunities - do you think he will take advantage of them?

or a "honest gun dealer" who didn't care who he sold it to.

Illegal weapons come from somewhere. And that somewhere still bears responsibility for it.

And that somewhere still bears responsibility for it.

baldguy seeks retribution from the last lawful owner of the gun no matter how well he or she secured it. His previous posts on this subject show that no gun storage method would satisfy him. His attitude is that if a gun is stolen, it's always the owner's fault.

I blame the person who either A) stole it or B) made the first unlawful transfer.

When an innocent bystander dies it's ALWAYS somebody else's fault, never the gun owner.

Sorry, but that doesn't wash. If you want the privilege of owning a gun you must take ALL of the responsibility that goes with it as well - good & bad.

I practice, encourage, and teach safe gun storage, but if some highly motivated burglar were to break into my safe and steal my collection I would not be responsible for someone crimially misusing any of them.

You, baldguy, have repeatedly refused to state what minimum standard you would accept for responsible storage of firearms.

as I'm guessing the only gun safe he would approve of would not have any door and would be dumped in the middle of the pacific.

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If your gun is stolen, is it your fault how it is used after that?

What if I steal your car and use it to run down a few dozen people. That's your fault right?

I imagine you would consider me a "gun fetishist".

Yet I am concerned about how my guns are used and bought a gun safe to store them in because of it.

So clearly your statement, "Gun fetishists want no responsibility regarding how their guns are used AT ALL" is false.

but I blame the criminal who used the stolen gun to kill the innocent bystander.

in an honest debate on the subject and should be dismissed as a "gun grabber".

Very funny!

Because I disagree with your point of view I am an NRA/GOP parrot? How do you know this, because its news to me. I am not a member of the NRA or the GOP, so go fuck yourself.
Do you have anything other than insults to add to the discussion or is civil discourse not in your vocabulary?

If you're too ashamed of your history of posting RW talking points that's your business.

I am not ashamed of anything I have posted, other than some insults that in hindsight seemed petty and unnecessary. I guess since I support 2A and am vocal about it, you see it as RW talking points. Too bad, since I am as far from RW as one can get. But I see you still have nothing but insults to add, and the same old "gun grabber" talking points, so I bud you good day. (No, thats not a misspelling)

Of course, calling something an "NRA/RW/GOP talking point" is easier than, like, actually refuting it...

He used it exactly as it was designed to be used.

If he loaded it, put his finger on the trigger, and fired it, how can that be "misuse"?

"Misuse" would be using it to hammer a nail.


His attitude is that if a gun is stolen, it's always the owner's fault.

How about: it is always the owner's RESPONSIBILITY. We like that word around here, don't we?


HHis previous posts on this subject show that no gun storage method would satisfy him.

My question is: of the thousands and thousands and thousands of guns stolen in the US every year, how many were secured AT ALL?

Do gun owners leave wads of cash in their bedside table drawer? Expensive jewelry in a box on the closet shelf?

If they care enough to secure their stuff in their OWN interests, but not to secure their stuff in other people's / the public's interests ... well, they're the assholes they are.


I blame the person who either A) stole it or B) made the first unlawful transfer.

If a lawful owner failed to secure it, then that lawful owner will be B.

He used it exactly as it was designed to be used.

If he put gas in it, put his foot on the accelerator, and drove it, how can that be "misuse"?

"Misuse" would be using it to hammer a nail.



Always taking shit out of context, iver. Its NEVER about the POINT thats trying to be made, is it?

You stay classy........

People "use them properly" all the time to commit crimes, even killing people (more so than guns in fact).

So we must ban cars. Not create laws to limit how they are used and arrest those who break said laws. Not regulate who is allowed to operate a car, also when and where it is acceptable. Not even insisting people have some basic level of skill.

Nope, cars are evil, must be banned.

For the children. You don't hate children do you?

since he has decided not to do it for himself.

Yes, pretending that dissent does not exist. That's the mark of a sincere person acting in good faith.

More of the pot and kettle thing, I see.

And who said anything about dissent not existing? WTF are you talking about? Did you go off your meds again?

And who said anything about dissent not existing? WTF are you talking about?

Get somebody to explain it to you.


Did you go off your meds again?

Have they developed the pill to make you reasonably intelligent yet? How about the one to help you control your impulse to make yourself look like a fool by engaging in violent outbursts of unpleasantness prompted only by your incomprehension of the world around you?

but more obfuscation and distortions. To be expected.

Somebody said there was?

I never want to see the inside of your head, I swear.

Please try the spell check function, BTW.

:nuke:

People in North Dakota seem to be having no problem with less restrictive gun laws and no gun problems.


It has everything to do with 20%+ unemployment, high rates of narcotics abuse, high rates of single parent families, poor quality schools, corrupt government, and no future.

Detroit constantly switches places with Baltimore as the murder capital of the U.S. and interestingly, both places have the characteristics you mention. Except Maryland has tighter gun laws than Michigan, so that's a variable that doesn't seem to play a part in the homicide rate.

America has abandoned them. No jobs, no education, no family, no law enforcement, no future. But I'm supposed to believe gun laws are the problem.