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Xela Donating Member (787 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 01:09 PM
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Liberal Scholar Don B. Kates in Handguns Magazine
Edited on Thu Aug-20-09 01:11 PM by Xela
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frebrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 02:44 PM
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1. K&R! Thanks! eom
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-20-09 11:27 PM
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2. you forgot the sarcasm tag, right?

What fun, I was just reading this in a thread on GD.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud#Misattributed

Misattributed

* A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.

o This is not a statement that appears in any translation of any of Freud's works. It is a paraphrase of a statement from the essay "Guns, Murders, and the Constitution" (February 1990) by Don B. Kates, Jr. where Kates summarizes his views of passages in Dreams in Folklore (1958) by Freud and David E. Oppenheim, while disputing statements by Emmanuel Tanay in "Neurotic Attachment to Guns" in a 1976 edition of The Fifty Minute Hour: A Collection of True Psychoanalytic Tales (1955) by Robert Mitchell Lindner:
Dr. Tanay is perhaps unaware of — in any event, he does not cite — other passages more relevant to his argument. In these other passages Freud associates retarded sexual and emotional development not with gun ownership, but with fear and loathing of weapons. The probative importance that ought to be attached to the views of Freud is, of course, a matter of opinion. The point here is only that those views provide no support for the penis theory of gun ownership.
Due to misreading of this essay and its citations, this paraphrase of an opinion about Freud's ideas has been wrongly attributed to Freud himself, and specifically to his 10th Lecture "Symbolism in Dreams" in General Introduction to Psychoanalysis on some internet forum pages: alt.quotations, uk.politics.guns, talk.politics.guns, can.talk.guns , etc.


If you seriously want someone to believe this was your first encounter with Kates ... well, sorry, it just isn't April today!

I love these "liberals" of yours though, I have to admit.

Maybe I can get you to answer me now about this one:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x115229#116675
et seq.

I've tried and tried:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=130413&mesg_id=130776

but just no answers ...

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