Just renewed my PA State License To Carry A Firearm yesterday.

Filled out a form online, went to the sheriff's office and had my photo taken for the license, paid $25.
Took 30 minutes. I'm good till September 2014.

mark

51 Pa.C.S.A. § 301

Purdon's Pennsylvania Statutes and Consolidated Statutes Currentness
Title 51 Pa.C.S.A. Military Affairs (Refs & Annos)

Part II. Pennsylvania National Guard, Pennsylvania Guard and Militia

Subpart A. Organization

Chapter 3. The Militia

§ 301. Formation



(a) Pennsylvania militia.--The militia of this Commonwealth shall consist of:

(1) all able-bodied citizens of the United States and all other able-bodied persons who have declared their intention to become citizens of the United States, residing within this Commonwealth, who are at least 17 years six months of age and, except as hereinafter provided, not more than 55 years of age; and

(2) such other persons as may, upon their own application, be enlisted or commissioned therein.


(b) Pennsylvania naval militia.--The naval militia of this Commonwealth, when organized pursuant to rules and regulations promulgated by the Governor, shall consist of those persons as may, upon their own application, be enlisted or commissioned therein....

(Underlining added for the reading impaired.)

http://weblinks.westlaw.com/result/default.aspx?cite=UUID%28NEC8AF0C034%2D4411DA8A989%2DF4EECDB8638%29&db=1000262&findtype=VQ&fn=%5Ftop&ifm=NotSet&pbc=4BF3FCBE&rlt=CLID%5FFQRLT3895338518110&rp=%2FSearch%2Fdefault%2Ewl&rs=WEBL9%2E09&service=Find&spa=pac%2D1000&sr=TC&vr=2%2E0

of the semiautomatic variety, and one of those SOCOM .45s as a sidearm, and all those who use the 'militia' argument would be copacetic with it. Because I would be a member of the militia of the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania.

Better yet, the PA law doesn't have the sexist language of the law establishing the Federal unorganized militia.

Cool!

Being a member of a militia or not has no bearing on your right to own a firearm.

Anyway, I'm too old for the Federal "unorganized militia", as the law now stands.

I notice that the "militia requirement" folks tend to evaporate when you point out that a large percentage of
the population would then be eligible to own (presumably semi-automatic versions) of current-issue infantry weapons.

On June 26, 2008, the Supreme Court affirmed, in a 5-4 decision, the ruling of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit in District of Columbia v. Heller, that the Second Amendment protects a pre-existing, private, individually-held right, to keep arms and to bear arms, without regard to a person’s relationship to a militia. The Court held that the Second Amendment does not (as the District argued) protect a right to possess arms only while in service in a militia or (as others have argued) a “state’s right” to maintain a militia. No dissenting justice endorsed the “state’s right” theory.

But hey, I'm sure you understand constitutional law better than those wearing the black robes.

is MoveOn.org.
We need many, many more armed Democrats.
Have a great day.

mark

Guess what... I just went to the supermarket and bought three cans of tuna fish - 3 cans for $1!
Took 5 minutes. Good until 2011.

lived on Faith not Fear....what was I thinking??? Gun Violence, it's American as Apple Fricking Pie! Have a good day.

That's called being prepared, not fearful.

How very Progressive of you.

Someone remind me, with folks like this along for the ride, why do we need Republicans?

its from a county with a Sheriff with(D) after his name.

automatically make you a Republican?

We have to keep trying to educate people, but it's an uphill battle. I don't know where that one comes from, but it shows up in DU forums every day.

The poster accused me of being an anti-Bill of Rights Republican and I just pointed out that I'm not. :shrug:

If rights are 'granted', then things like the second amendment limit the scope of the 'rights' they 'grant'.

Since rights aren't 'granted', things like the second amendment limit the government's ability to meddle with those pre-existing rights.

For an example, see the preamble to the Bill of Rights-



eta: forgot the ninth amendment:



Once you wrap your head around the concept that rights aren't 'granted' and that the second amendment is a restriction on the government (not a limit on people), then the discussion changes.

Definitely not just semantics.

I'm not getting drawn into a discussion which has nothing to do with the accusation the poster made about me.

Good day.

You seem totally against the second amendment

double tap

I NEVER accused you of any such thing, I simply asked you a question.

and politicized by the RWers. They are still potentially a good and useful organization. No, I don't have any badges or caps identifying me as a person with a firearm.

Oh, yeah - I learned to shoot at age 10 when I was in that fascist uniformed paramilitary organization, the Cub Scouts.
I got a badge for that,too.

mark

But they look really spiffy hangin around yer neck .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/42402120@N07/3972589744/sizes/o/

the Sekrit Pro-Gun Promotion Cabal and post something gun-postive on DU.

Wait.

They don't?

Well now, I have been assured that the NRA did that sort of thing. By some of the finest minds out there
on the net.

Now how will I pay for Iso-Dry for my van?

8am-7pm on 11/14, I'll be in class covering-

# CHL Eligibility and the Application Process
# Firearms Safety, Range Safety, and Child Safety
# Legal Restrictions on Concealed Carry
# Effective Communication for Non-Violent Dispute Resolution
# Situational Awareness (Staying out of Trouble)
# Texas Penal Code - Chapter 9 - Lawful Use of Force

This is an all-in-one class- they do the photograph, fingerprints, notary, even mailing in the app

you for doing this.

All the best.

mark

(a young man) was of good character, not a felon in my knowledge or something like that. He was applying for a gun permit of some kind, maybe carrying, I don't remember now. Does PA still have that process? It sound pretty easy now.