Worst gun reporting ever? (not a serious thread)

This is an older article, but it popped up in a Google search this morning. My first thought was that it's satire, but I think it was meant to be serious...



The only thing missing was a description of the "fricking sharks with fricking lasers on their heads" in the moat around the residence. No word on where the kid got the 950-round magazine, the rate accelerator (maybe from Bioshock?), the titanium bullets, or the 400-yard laser...

For those readers who may not understand why that is so funny, titanium weights about the same as aluminum. Bullets need heavy stuff for their cores, not light stuff. Heavier bullets are able to have greater momentum for the same velocity. That's why the military uses depleted uranium for armor piercing rounds, because it is so heavy.

That is almost as funny as "steel jacketed bullets". For the anit-gun readers, steel jacketed bullets don't exist. Jackets are a copper alloy. The bullet must be a much softer metal than the gun barrel, or it would quickly wear out the barrel.

Are you saying the jacket from the test round I fired into the ground and is now stuck to a magnet doesn't exit? I must be on some great drugs. Seriously, Eastern European manufacturers, as well as Russia, generally make steel core, steel jacketed, steel cased bullets. Something about it's cheaper than brass and copper. As I understand it, the steel jacket is a soft steel that won't wear the barrel. I couldn't find the core from the test round, so I don't know yet what it's made of, although the round I disassembled seems to have a harder steel core. The ammo I have looks like copper, but it's merely copper "washed" (whatever that means) to protect it from corrosion. It's also referred to in ads as "bi-metal"

Many companies make these out of steel, aluminum or various non-brass materials for a variety of reasons.

The 'jacket' is the outer metal layer of the bullet (projectile), and for normal use is almost always copper/alloy in 'jacketed' bullets. It must be softer than the metal of the barrel it travels down when fired. Some bullets are manufactured with a steel core, for less expansion/greater penetration than soft lead, but they will always have a softer jacketing material.

is lead core with a jacket made of a very soft steel alloy that is copper washed to prevent corrosion. It is about as soft as brass and won't wear the barrel, and it is not armor-piercing, but it will stick to a magnet.

A lot of Chinese made ammunition imported prior to 1994 used a core of mild steel in a copper jacket. Again, the steel was very soft and was used because it was cheaper than lead, not because it conferred any armor piercing powers, but because the 1986 AP bullet ban does not specify steel hardness, steel-core ammo in 7.62x39mm fell under the 1986 bullet ban when 7.62x39mm was reclassified as a pistol caliber by the BATFE in 1994.

They're cheap military surplus 7.62x51mm from eastern Europe, Sellier and Bellot. They have a copper cladding, then a steel jacket, then a lead core. A lot of military surplus ammo (particularly from the 60s and 70s) is like this.

Though they've been NATO member for about ten years now, the Czechs haven't adopted any weapons that fire 7.62x51mm NATO. Are you sure you don't mean 7.62x54mmR? The Czechs still have Dargunov rifles and vz. 59 machine guns, and both fire that round.

You would need to be one strong SOB to lug that AK around with a 950 round Mag.:rofl:

I think I'll go with the latter...




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THE DEADLY WEAPON!....




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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-436543/Just-hours-buy-deadly-weapon.html

Who the hell is their "weapons expert" in the last paragraph supposed to be? There are a couple of dozen posters on this site alone who would do a better job than that twat.

Object lesson for news media in general: when you send a guy to do a piece on guns, send someone who actually knows something about guns. Someone who knows Beretta never made a copy of the 1911 chambered for "9mm"; someone who knows that there are multiple cartridges in 9mm caliber (9x17mm, aka .380 ACP or 9mm Short/Kurz/Corto; 9x18mm Makarov; 9x19mm, aka 9mm Parabellum/Luger; 9x21mm IMI; and 9x23mmSR +P, more commonly known as .38 Super; and that's not counting more obscure and archaic 9mm cartridges); and most importantly, someone who can tell a real gun from a gorram toy!

Their "weapons expert" (read: some guy in the pub who'd seen a couple of movies with guns in them) is full of shit. Anyone who knows anything about 1911s would immediately see that the trigger's wrong, the trigger guard's the wrong shape, the magazine release isn't visible, the grip safety is missing, the thumb safety and grip panel are the wrong shape, and the adjustable sights aren't actually adjustable.

Seriously what the hell is that thing?

But....

Folks, this is from the Daily Mail, a British tabloid that makes the National Inquirer look like responsible, sane, award-winning journalism. They are one of the very rare cases in which, if they put it into ink, you can safely assume it is wrong, biased, sensationalist and pandering. Usually all in the first sentance. They make Chris Matthews and Rush Limbaugh look "fair and balanced".

The D.M. is for entertainment value (well, for very LOW values of 'entertainment'...) ONLY.

but sadly there are readers that take that sort of bile as fact and the gospel truth.

The hilarious part is that the Mail actually has pretensions of not being a tabloid, even though it very obviously is.

And frankly, British papers in general aren't all that reliable. In the words of Sir Humphrey Appleby (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Humphrey_Appleby), "they cater to their readers' prejudices" and as a result, they aren't above fabricating details to make the story more entertaining.

You can see the orange tip on the fake suppressed FN P90.

It really makes you wonder which of the others are airsoft as well.

While the orange tip is a decades old US federal requirement that arose out of police shootings involving kids with realistic looking toys, don't bet your bippy that the orange paint guarantees it's a fake. Doubtlessly, before the ink had dried after Congress passed the law, some enterprising 'youth' was down at Home Depot shoplifting a can of Day-Glo orange spray paint to paint the muzzle on his Hi-Point.

We like to characterize thugs as stupid, but at least give them credit for occasionally being more than clever, by half. A real working squirt gun with a real 12 gauge shotgun built in. Snatched up by a Florida deputy about a year ago.

We're talking about the guys who practically controlled entire cities up to three years ago, when Calderon threw the army at them. Given how brutal the conflict has been, it strikes me a highly doubtful that the federales and Mexican army would hesitate to shoot a suspected narco just because the muzzle of his weapon is painted orange. Besides, these are highly macho types; senior members carry elaborately decorated .38 Super 1911s because they want to show off how badass they are. You think if one these guys laid his hands on a suppressed P90--a weapon FN will only sell to government agencies to begin with--he's going to want people to think it's an airsoft weapon? That's just not badass.

And dang, I used to have one of those Super Soakers, eleven or twelve years ago. A bunch of my friends nad I all bought one each for water fights on summer vacation in Austria. Because we almost all had the same model, we individualized them with waterproof markers. Mine was named the "Admiral Ackbar Special," with Rebel Alliance emblems on the tank, and on the muzzle (visible to the target) I'd written "H2OShit!"

One weekend, in the 70's on a Kaserne in Germany, some drunken idiot was running around the troop billets threatening people with a pistol. As the staff duty NCO, I was required to investigate. Encountering the bozo, I could see what looked like a Walther PP in his hand. Had he done anything but immediately drop the thing, I'd have shot him.

Upon picking the "gun" up it became apparent that it was a pot metal replica, but from 15 feet away in a barracks stairwell it was convincing enough. When I read about cops or others who have been in a shooting where the other weapon turned out to be a toy, I can fully understand the dilemma. The orange muzzle marking requirement was a legislative 'we need to look like we are doing something' response to the problem. For every gamer with an Air-soft who chafes under the regulation and paints the muzzle on a replica black, there is banger who paints a muzzle on a real gun orange to gain that split second tactical advantage where a cop has to decide, "Is it real?"

Even the most favorable outcome of such a situation will be that the Civilian Review Board will take a 100 days to second guess what the cop SHOULD have done in a hundredth of a second.

Why should deception be beneath a Mexican narcotraficante? Don't they routinely use fake police and military uniforms and vehicles as well?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRQqieimwLQ
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