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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 06:58 PM Original message |
How the Brady Campaign Lies and Distorts |
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old mark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
1. Brady Bunch was organized and still is led by Republicans - |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Doesn't matter who started it. We need gun control and democrats have nearly always supported it. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:54 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Ahh, revisionist history rears it's ugly head.. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:03 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Here are some of them: |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:40 AM Response to Reply #6 |
55. Actually, it is fear of "Negroes with guns" which prompted modern gun control (nt) |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:11 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. Okay, since most crimes involving a gun are committed by felons and the underage... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #3 |
12. Was Eleanor Roosevelt a Democrat? |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:44 AM Response to Reply #12 |
33. I wish I could save indivual posts somehow. n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #33 |
49. You sould be able to bookmark them.... |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. The "Print Screen" key is your friend... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:07 AM Response to Reply #51 |
54. The GunGuys said the handguns hadn't been invented... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:48 AM Response to Reply #54 |
56. They said *what?* |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #56 |
63. Found it-read for yourself: |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. To me the gunguys are the clowns of the anti-gun movement. (n/t) |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #3 |
25. We already have gun control. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 03:42 AM Response to Reply #3 |
28. I'm sure Republicans are very supportive of a Democratic-passed gun-control bill. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #3 |
84. Refresh my memory, did we support gun control when the KKK used it to disarm black people? |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 03:46 AM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Dosen't matter who it is |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
2. Yeah, like no women are "really abused" and we really" don't have a problem with guns". |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Nobody is debating the Brady Bill |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 07:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Fascinating points |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:37 PM Response to Reply #2 |
21. Do you mean the Lautenberg Amendment? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:10 AM Response to Reply #2 |
37. I support the Brady Act and feel it should be expanded in one important way |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
48. Woman shoots, kills, home invading ex-boyfriend. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
50. Not only would they happily leave her defensless... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #2 |
78. I suggest you search out the history of the Democratic Party Platforms... |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. "the typical battered women" |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Well, if pointing out a potential flaw in a studies reasoning.... |
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Howardx (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. what bullshit |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Orly? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Deleted sub-thread |
TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #13 |
18. Indeed, it is bullshit to pretend that someone here is |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Stuff a little more hay into that strawman argument. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:36 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. "Oh, that's you all over." -- Wizard of Oz (nt) |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 04:59 AM Response to Reply #13 |
65. not all victims of domestic violence are "battered", male or female |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:27 AM Response to Reply #65 |
72. Battered men are invisible victims. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. true |
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katandmoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Yes, there is. After all they value guns above human life. |
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divideandconquer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:44 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. The Brady campaign is pro Republican but the NRA isn't pro Republican |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 08:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Noooooo |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:41 AM Response to Reply #16 |
81. The Brady's and the NRA: I believe the jargon-jiving DNC would call it a win-win? (nt) |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #14 |
27. The NRA is pro-gun... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:02 AM Response to Reply #27 |
66. actually the NRA is pro gun RIGHTS |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 03:59 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. Grow up and save your gun hugger lable |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:47 AM Response to Reply #30 |
82. Umm this isn't clear. Perhaps you can help... |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:54 AM Response to Reply #14 |
35. The NRA is partisan to guns... not partisan to political parties. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:58 AM Response to Reply #14 |
36. Depends on which part of the NRA you're talking about |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Naa, they don't value guns above human life... |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
20. Cite, please? n/t |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:10 AM Response to Reply #11 |
23. I'm a gun-owner because I value life. Mine and my family. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #11 |
57. Ooooo! The horrible "They" has crept into the crypt (nt) |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 09:18 AM Response to Reply #11 |
71. katandmoon reminds me of General Jack Ripper in the movie Dr. Strangelove |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. And we're here to pollute America's precious bodily fluids! |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 10:39 AM Response to Reply #11 |
80. Another eruption from beneath the sheets (nt) |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-02-09 10:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
22. Why did you dissapper from that other thread when I found and posted updates to the story? |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:12 AM Response to Original message |
24. Brady = Liars. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 08:44 AM Response to Original message |
31. UNREC "Volokh Conspiracy" is not reliable source. Neocon, anti-regulation, |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:01 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. In your case, they have a point |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:47 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Reply includes gratuitous Insult: "You are and will remain ignorant." |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:29 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Reading only people you already agree with does lead to ignorance. |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. I merely identify source's ideological bias. I take no position on the issue. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. LOL! |
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philly_bob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:18 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. Again, I have no opinion as to the claim. I have an opinion as to the source. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. *sigh* you fail in such a major way.... |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #44 |
46. Come on now, you know better than that... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 02:57 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. And let's not even get into Newton and Einstien, or we'll all be flung into oblivion! :P (nt) |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #47 |
60. HA! Just grab onto some fractal geometry and reproduce ad nausem (nt) |
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friendly_iconoclast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. It's called the 'genetic fallacy', and you've been using it to avoid the issue |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #42 |
52. And yet you continue to attack the source, and not the merits of the article. |
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westerm (24 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. hurp durp |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:13 AM Response to Reply #40 |
59. No one needs "blowing whistles." We are aware of Volokh... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:08 AM Response to Reply #40 |
69. you said they were UNRELIABLE |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-22-09 11:00 AM Response to Reply #40 |
83. You call it "bullying," we call it sound argument. Get over the bully business... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
68. i agree |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 10:31 AM Response to Reply #34 |
39. So you are insulted by the truth? N/T |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #34 |
53. "A statement of fact cannot be insolent." |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 08:55 AM Response to Reply #31 |
58. Actually, if you can't stand them so much, you SHOULD read them... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 09:31 AM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Sun Tzu, more or less |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 10:08 AM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Sun Tzu comes in and out of popularity. I heard of him first in Vietnam era (nt) |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:13 AM Response to Reply #58 |
70. the more i read stuff from |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-05-09 05:04 AM Response to Reply #31 |
67. rubbish |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 09:59 PM Response to Original message |
75. The current down turn in violent crime, does not jive with Brady's promise.. |
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TPaine7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #75 |
76. There is a place where the crime has gone up just as the Brady |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-21-09 10:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. CUE "Twilight zone music" NT....ROFLMAO!!! |
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