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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 12:59 PM Original message |
Supreme Court Refuses to Hear Case Against Gun Maker... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Gun love obviously extends to gun makers. |
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krispos42 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. It really is an unjustified lawsuit |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #2 |
35. c'mon there, get a clue |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
45. You should take your own advice about "reading something" about it. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #45 |
62. no, you read something about it |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #62 |
122. The problem here is ignorance of the specific and general product. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #122 |
125. post 99 |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:13 PM Response to Reply #125 |
129. Ahhh, so just because your experts are full of shit... |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:45 PM Response to Reply #125 |
136. Lucky me. I covered both points in #122. |
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Retired AF Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-19-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #125 |
200. Since you don't know shit about guns |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
46. With all your legal expertise... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. you're right |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Nice side step... |
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tburnsten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #35 |
194. How is a cop not securing his pistol a manufacturing or design flaw? |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So manufactures should be held liable for unlawful use of thier products? |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Strict tort liability. It kills or injures, the maker pays. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. Bullshit. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. More importantly: No Legal Liability Because Of Gun Love Codified. Yes? |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Define the defect |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. No flaw. It worked perfectly. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. So you want the police to have service weapons that cannot kill or maim? |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #17 |
56. Exactly. Thank you. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:16 PM Response to Reply #13 |
16. More Importantly: You've just essentially admitted that you have no good counter argument. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. What position? I simply made an observation that the Court has once again missed an opportunity. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Actually, the PLCAA was a response to a long series of frivolous and SLAPP lawsuits |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. Translation: Carry On Dying Ya'All. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Ummmm, no. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #25 |
42. What complete nonsense |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #25 |
158. Change the fucking record already |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 09:28 AM Response to Reply #25 |
162. Hmm. What's with this "Ya'All" thing? Are we all Southerners?... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #162 |
198. Just the usual attempt to frame RKBA proponents as uneducated yokels |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #18 |
23. Or logic and reason. But call it what you want. :P (nt) |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #18 |
29. Opportunity for what? |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:36 PM Response to Reply #29 |
49. How about some narrow construction? That's really what is needed. |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:51 PM Response to Reply #49 |
53. The court should uphold the laws. Period. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
61. The Courts define constitutionality and set tone. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #61 |
95. The courts upheld what the Constitution had been ammended to. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:52 PM Response to Reply #49 |
140. Why is that needed? |
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Caliman73 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
181. The court decided correctly based on the law. |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #13 |
36. Wow, you are quite obtuse and disingenuous, arent you? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:22 PM Response to Reply #6 |
19. So the car manufacturers are liable for deaths caused by drunk or negligent drivers |
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virginia mountainman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #6 |
31. Yea, apply that standard to Automobiles too! |
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OneTenthofOnePercent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. That statement is so ridiculous |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. So if some teenage boy steals his father's 638 horsepower ZR1 Corvette ... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
7. A Corvette isn't manufactured for the purpose of killing. |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. Nor is a gun. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. They are certainly very capable of fulfilling that function.... n/t |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. So much for your "strict tort liability" canard |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #7 |
57. Hey! See post #6 on that "strict tort liability" |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #1 |
8. Perhaps you can explain... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. They made a product designed to kill and put it into commerce. Simple as that. |
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taurus145 (453 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. You're amazing |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:00 PM Response to Reply #15 |
26. If it FAILED to kill or maim, I would sue. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #15 |
30. Let's ignore the fact that firearms are designed and produced for many legitimate reasons. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #15 |
38. sorry, sharesunited |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #15 |
48. Killing is a legitimate purpose, sometimes people need to be killed or intimidated |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:05 PM Response to Reply #48 |
106. because of "gun love" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #8 |
34. and maybe you can explain, |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Sharesunited, post 6. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:54 PM Response to Reply #41 |
55. funny, that came after |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Share's post is post 6. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:27 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. the post I replied to was a reply to post 1 |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Because Pave decided to reply to a different post... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #71 |
78. yeah |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #71 |
82. and anyhow, of course |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #82 |
86. Just because you say something is "reality" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:31 PM Response to Reply #86 |
89. just because you burble out some noise |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. You mean he used a "strawman?" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
96. lordy |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:01 PM Response to Reply #96 |
103. I never said it was a "straw man argument." |
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Fire_Medic_Dave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:02 PM Response to Reply #34 |
145. So now you care about the truth? Then maybe you can explain where I solicited applause for death. |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #1 |
12. So an officer leaves his department issue pistol where his kid can access it, |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
67. here ya go |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #67 |
97. Commonplace my ass. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. post 99 |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
116. "Expert testimoney?" Really? |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #107 |
141. The Beretta 92 works just like every other semi-auto handgun. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:31 AM Response to Reply #107 |
156. The 'expert testimony' is crap. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #156 |
163. I own two pistols that have magazine disconnect safeties |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:25 PM Response to Reply #163 |
178. hardly |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:43 PM Response to Reply #178 |
184. But we aren't strictly speaking about a consumer good here. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #184 |
186. I think I've addressed this |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #186 |
188. But yet |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:33 PM Response to Reply #188 |
190. it's a law school exam question |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #156 |
174. whatever ... |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. If it didn't meet my bar for 'frivolous', I would be concerned. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. well, whatever |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #176 |
179. That is common here. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #179 |
180. yes, I'm well aware |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #180 |
191. Why is it bizarre? |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #176 |
183. I am aware of that. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
110. as a firearms instructor... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:25 PM Response to Reply #110 |
131. You never rely on a mechanical device for safety with a firearm |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:27 PM Response to Reply #131 |
132. correct |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:14 AM Response to Reply #132 |
165. I like that look and feel idea.. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #165 |
177. there are some other big ones imo |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #177 |
192. All good rules to follow... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. we had an officer |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 04:02 PM Response to Reply #195 |
196. The indoor range I used to shoot at... |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 06:43 PM Response to Reply #196 |
199. that's totally unacceptable |
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benEzra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 08:11 AM Response to Reply #67 |
161. Ummm, most departments PROHIBIT magazine disconnects on duty pistols they procure... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-20-09 08:20 AM Response to Reply #161 |
201. Another issue is that long guns don't have mag disconnects |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #1 |
101. it's called civil rights love |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
134. Would you some cheese to go with that wine? |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
4. K&R |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
24. Outstanding. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 03:44 PM Response to Original message |
32. love that source |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
39. I also love your source and its unbiased reporting... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #39 |
54. got some grounds for disputing the facts it reported? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:37 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Our Superior Court decided not to hear the case. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #68 |
77. wowsers |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #77 |
123. I wish I had your reading glasses. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:10 PM Response to Reply #123 |
128. well if I had them myself |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
112. magazine safeties ALSO make the gun less effective |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
40. A magazine releast safety can also get you killed. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:11 PM Response to Original message |
37. has one single person in this thread READ THE FACTS |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Not even close to a good analogy. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. "A car cannot be operated safely without a speedometer." |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. I guess it depends on what you consider "safe." |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. well, there ya go |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #65 |
73. Did the gun not have a manual? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:15 PM Response to Reply #73 |
80. People with little knowledge of firearms are very commonplace in the anti-gun crowd. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:22 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. what knowledge do you have in mind, friend? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:45 PM Response to Reply #84 |
121. You for one ... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:37 PM Original message |
listen up, okay? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:49 PM Response to Original message |
137. Actually, the problem is you, Iverglas. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:58 PM Response to Reply #137 |
142. nah |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:17 PM Response to Reply #142 |
149. Sorry, my "fingerwagging" is doing just fine right here. (nt) |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
171. Actually an interesting reply and well researched ... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #171 |
172. yes indeed |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:31 PM Response to Reply #172 |
182. Most police officers I know prefer to carry off duty ... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
83. "a tale told by an idiot, |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:28 PM Response to Reply #83 |
88. Thank you for pointing out that you don't know what an ABS is. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #88 |
91. oh, whatever |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #91 |
98. Wow, for somebody who hates strawman arguments so much... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:12 PM Response to Reply #98 |
111. I keep tellin ya |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:29 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. An ABS IS a safety feature. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:06 PM Response to Reply #118 |
124. and I'll just keep trying to help you |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:37 PM Response to Reply #124 |
133. You originally placed the emphasis on "safety features" |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #133 |
139. I keep tripping on those goddamned stone tablets |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #139 |
152. Nicely done iverglas. |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:40 PM Response to Reply #139 |
154. You don't do a lot of things. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #139 |
155. aaargh, unfixed typo |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:32 AM Response to Reply #124 |
169. Completely worng. 100% completley wrong. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #169 |
173. somebody say it was? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #173 |
189. You were the one that propped it up to start.... |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #111 |
168. Wow, you sure can bob and weave better than Ali! |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:58 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. A loaded chamber indicator is a point of failure for an unsupported case kB! |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:03 PM Response to Reply #91 |
104. You are reaching. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:05 AM Response to Reply #104 |
164. The "chamber loaded indicator" first appeared on the Walther P.38 military pistol |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:45 PM Response to Reply #164 |
185. Correction |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:26 AM Response to Reply #91 |
167. A speedometer is needed for safe operation of a car. A "loaded indicator" is not needed for safe |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:31 AM Response to Reply #88 |
159. I think an automatic transmission is a better analogy than ABS for a magazine disconnect |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Suppose you had a button on the dash that would cause the speedometer to pop out... |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #44 |
47. Yep, that's similar to the point I was making above. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:37 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. One reason I would not consider an S&W pistol for self defense... |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 07:42 AM Response to Reply #50 |
160. Magazine disconnects are optional on the M&P series |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 04:50 PM Response to Reply #44 |
52. Haven't read the facts yet, have ya? |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #52 |
59. Nice try but lame... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #59 |
66. do you have eye trouble too? |
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jefflrrp (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:07 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Please, allow me to be callous, horrible, self-serving, mean . . . |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:09 PM Response to Reply #72 |
75. Welcome to DU. (n/t) |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
85. well your opinion just rules |
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jefflrrp (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:06 PM Response to Reply #85 |
108. yep. I'll be there for you . . . . |
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Tejas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #108 |
120. You are hereby nominated to babysit the Canadian |
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jefflrrp (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #120 |
127. thanks tejas & spin |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:00 PM Response to Reply #127 |
143. suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuure you are |
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jefflrrp (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:15 PM Response to Reply #143 |
148. Problem, iverglas? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:23 PM Response to Reply #148 |
150. oh dear, already it starts |
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jefflrrp (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #150 |
153. oops. duly noted n/t |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #66 |
74. Commonplace? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
79. Ya beat me too it Spin! |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:17 PM Response to Reply #79 |
81. The next time you'll make the better point. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:27 PM Response to Reply #74 |
87. huh |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:34 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. California isn't populated by loons... |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #87 |
126. California is just one state... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:01 PM Response to Reply #126 |
144. you sure did get your name right |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:10 PM Response to Reply #66 |
76. Also, another point. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:40 PM Response to Reply #66 |
93. Magazine disconnect safeties can be a hazard to the user in a fight. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
99. the diversionary grooming is making me dizzy |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:04 PM Response to Reply #99 |
105. There's nothing diversionary about it. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:14 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Excuse me??? |
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eqfan592 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:31 PM Response to Reply #113 |
119. Actually, both features have been mentioned by myself... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #99 |
109. I was addressing one of the two complaints you were making. |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #99 |
117. Gun load indicators are useless |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 03:35 AM Response to Reply #117 |
157. Not entirely useless. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #99 |
130. I spent some time in Massachusetts when I was in the service... |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:41 PM Response to Reply #99 |
135. Misleading picture on that web site. |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:03 PM Response to Reply #135 |
146. good god, it's a BERETTA website |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 09:12 PM Response to Reply #146 |
147. Just pointing out the facts. |
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davepc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #146 |
170. google "Beretta Chamber loaded indicator" and you'll find an actual pitcture of one |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 05:48 PM Response to Reply #135 |
187. Safety OFF should be GREEN. |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #187 |
193. Shouldn't matter... |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-18-09 05:55 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. It can be handy for a gun that you aren't familiar with. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 08:51 PM Response to Reply #93 |
138. But some states require them |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 05:55 PM Response to Original message |
70. Using Brady logic |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 06:41 PM Response to Reply #70 |
94. nopers |
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Indy Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:00 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Nopers? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #102 |
115. stopped beating that poor dog yet? |
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rd_kent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-17-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #102 |
166. Don't take it personally. You used a good example. For some reason, good examples fall on deaf ears |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-16-09 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
114. What effect does this have on future similar cases? |
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151. I actually... |
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