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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:03 PM Original message |
The leading cause of death for black men 15 to 34 is homicide. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
1. Did you score a major bargain on asbestos suits? |
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tularetom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
2. Why is this in the "Guns" forum? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. Not at all |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
3. Question, what is your solution? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. I wish it were simple |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. It's far from simple ... |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
4. Timothy McVeigh was all about gun culture and virtually lived at gun shows. |
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Walk away (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. +1 |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. ..and how many like that compared to street thugs (of various races) |
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DonP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Did he buy his fuel oil or fertilizer at a gun show? |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 03:59 PM Response to Reply #4 |
14. He is also the perfect example to justify |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. And excellent example |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. One incident does not make a trend. N/T |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. And his crime involved no guns |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 08:15 PM Response to Reply #4 |
23. That first sentence also describes about 20 of my relatives. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #4 |
27. He lived at gun shows where he learned about ......fertilizer? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
8. "Gangsta rap" has about as much to do with it as violent video games. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
10. there's alot to what you say |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #10 |
26. I'm inclined to think gangsta rap is a symptom, not the cause |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. "Feedback loop:" Think "Legs" Diamond and George Raft. nt |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. Good and thoughtful points. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:46 PM Response to Reply #10 |
32. hopelessness breeds crime. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Interesting premise, but some research |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:25 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. Absolutely. |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Another intersting quote from Ogbu |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #35 |
37. And with "the link between educational achievement and access to jobs" being maybe weaker than ever, |
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gorfle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Did you read Ogbu's conclusions? |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. I guess I was being a lot more general, but yes, of course student motivation and parental |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Feb-27-10 02:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Bill Cosby, May 2004 |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. +100 |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Poverty and racism |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. And the teabagger movement |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:03 PM Response to Reply #8 |
30. From the book I read, the gangs came first, then the drugs. |
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DissedByBush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-26-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #8 |
38. Violent video game players |
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dmallind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 02:48 PM Response to Original message |
9. In all fairness what should healthy young men die of? |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 03:38 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Healthy young men ought to worry about |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 04:47 PM Response to Reply #9 |
19. Motor vehicle accidents and poisoning |
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Artie Bucco (174 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. I don't know |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-24-10 08:22 PM Response to Original message |
24. Ugh, holding a pistol like that. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
31. I appreciate your dealing with these issues; it's gutsy, even... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-25-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Way up at the top |
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