Michigan: 5 Officers Are Shot, One Fatally

A Detroit police officer was killed Monday and four others were wounded when they responded to a report of gunshots at a vacant duplex where a neighbor said drugs were sold. Officer Brian Huff, 42, was killed; the police said he was the first officer killed in the line of duty in five years. A 25-year-old suspect was shot once in the lower back and was being treated at a hospital, the police said.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/04/us/04brfs-5OFFICERSARE_BRF.html

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been a while I bet.

is just a bit higher than average. 58k in co, 100k in ct. almost zero crime.

on taking firearms out of the hands of criminals rather then honest people.

Anyone caught illegally with a firearm should spend a LONG time in prison. We can let some of the non violent drug offenders out of prison to make room.

Better yet, we could end the futile war on drugs.

we could mention a little compassion for the officers and their families. Funny, no gun forum member has done that yet. Secure the gun then honor the officer?

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the police officers who protect us in the OP? Ooops, you still haven't mentioned them or their families. It's all about the gun for you isn't it?

I send a good sized check to my local Officer's Association every year. That's the way I show my support and respect to law enforcement. Do you walk the walk, or just talk the talk?

The fact that you would assume that I don't care about police officers killed in the line of duty simply because I haven't demonstrated sympathy in the fashion you would prefer demonstrates what an incredibly small human being you are.

I agree, you don't care about police officers because you won't publicly demonstrate sympathy for them. you wouldn't want you fellow gungioneers seeing you as being soft. See, we can agree on something.

I show my sympathy and support by showing up at their funerals in my home town when they die in the line of duty. And I send annual checks to my local Police Officers Association.

Again, the fact that you expect me to demonstrate my sympathy and support for police officers on your terms only demonstrates what a small, ego-driven individual you are.

And they're under no obligation to do so. Google Castle Rock V Gonzales

being assaulted by some druggie or scumbag asshole. His actual job is to write up a report after the fact on how your cowardly ass was offed by the bad guys. People who despise the right to self defense will weep...I will laugh my goddam ass off.
Fuck you.
(Yeah, I'll be banned for this...it will be the 132nd time. Ha fucking ha.)

One local officer, who was looking for a home to buy, stayed with my family in our large old home, which was once a hotel, for a year.

Anytime a police officer is killed in the line of duty by a criminal it's tragic. Often the criminal has a long record of violent crime and may even have been arrested for possessing an illegal firearm in the past. All too often gun charges are plea bargained away and not considered serious. Yet our politicians and many here who opposed RKBA push for laws that have more effect on honest citizens but none on criminals.

In some cities politicians are waking up to the fact that a person who is caught with an illegal firearm is a walking time bomb.





An example of how gun control should work:



Instead of focusing efforts on "feel good" laws such as another "assault weapons" ban those who want to see a decrease in violent crime should instead push for stronger punishment for career criminals who illegally own firearms.

When you attempt to put out a fire, you don't spray the flames with a fire extinguisher, you spray the base of the fire.
Passing laws which only effect legal gun owners is like spraying the flames. Going after criminals with guns is spraying the base.

Just as in putting out a fire, if you do it correctly the flames will die out. If we actually reduce the crime rate, many citizens will buy a wide screen TV rather than a firearm.

Hmmm, like you did in your OP? Oh, wait, you didn't.

Fact: any officer's death is a tragedy. And when a parent is killed, their children will suffer from that, to varying degrees, for life. The loss is deep, and irreparable. You'd get no argument there, if that were an point you had actually bothered to make.

Where I disagree is that I don't consider the definition of "compassion for the officers and their families" to include jumping up and down in the fallen officer's blood in order to buttress your particular viewpoint on a contentious political issue. To me, that's cynical exploitation, but what do I know.

There's also the often-ignored fact that things are moving in the right direction, given that officer line-of-duty shooting deaths are now at their lowest level since the 1950's. Funny that fact isn't commonly celebrated around here....perhaps because it would do too much damage to the "privately owned guns are of the debbil" meme.

And regular citizens should have access to them.

Amazing.

And you're right, MichaelHarris, compassion (or at least concern) for the officers wounded or killed would certainly be in order here.

I don't think that changes the fact that you posted the article with the usual smug, "If THIS doesn't prove my point to you gun-lovers, I don't now what will," attitude that seems to accompany these posts.

Perhaps if decades of neglectful leadership had not left Detroit with 40,000+ abandoned homes awaiting demolition, or if Granholm was not pushing felons out the doors of the prisons as fast as she could, Michigan would not have criminals squatting in abandoned homes with illegal weapons, just waiting to shoot it out with police.

Instead of addressing any of those issues, however, you feel that taking guns away from lawful owners would somehow have prevented this situation.

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When you're done with that, can you address the other points in my post?

(BTW, I mentioned attitude, not words. If you need to take it that way in order to avoid the other questions, though, feel free.)

Carjacking, cop sees the stolen car, one of the robbers guns him down before he could leave the car. Responding officers swarm the area and lock it down. One of guys tries to get away by attacking another officer with something heavy; cop gets his face broken pretty good before managing to draw and kill his attacker. They chase down the other guy a few hours later at a relative's house and convince him to surrender.


Regarding your story, if drugs were legalized this probably wouldn't have happened.

i cut and pasted from the facebook page

Officer Longbehn responded for duty on his day off to look for the murderer of Maplewood Sergeant Joe Bergeron. A short time later, Officer Longbehn found himself in a fight for his life against one of the men who killed Sgt. Bergeron. During that fight, Officer Longbehn's nose, septum and eye sockets were broken as the suspect repeatedly hit him on the head with a large bolt that was wrapped in cloth. Eventually, Officer Longbehn was able to unholster his gun and shoot the suspect. The suspect died at the scene and Officer Longbehn was treated at the hospital for his injuries. Officer Longbehn is a hero who selflessly sacrificed his own time and well being to stop a cop killer- for this, he should be recognized!! (read less)