Facing defeat in U.S. courts, Chicago Mayor Daley suggests "appeal" to World Court

Someone is off their meds.



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http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/node/7293

Chicago Mayor Richard M. Daley is clearly getting desperate to save the city's longtime ban on private ownership of firearms. With the prospect looming of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling his city's ban unconstitutional, and after the state Supreme Court tossed his $433 million lawsuit against the gun industry, he is now calling for a change of venue — to the World Court normally reserved for disputes between nations and crimes against humanity.
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Who is paying for Daley-Jung-Il's vendetta?

Good, I hate guns and the NRA
Posted by KansasVoter

when a homeowner shoots back.

:rofl:

How very sad for you.

They are all civil rights.

In the immortal words of Bugs Bunny, "What a maroon."

When will people learn that embracing the issue of gun control has done more harm than good to our party?

what authority do they have? None for this matter. Let
daey obey the law like the rest of us have to.

:)

The "Fuck you , you jew bastard " never falls too far from the tree.

Chicago gun violence is claiming too many lives, especially minority school children so I understand his concern. This court interprets the 2nd amendment without the regulated militia qualifier (like all gun advocates and the gun industry do). It is the center of their understanding of the constitution and its one unmovable heart beat interpretation. But it isn't an international matter.

could legally and readily/easily defend themselves with firearms, as in the majority of this Nation, do you think their crime rate would rise or fall?

Why or why not?

the phrase "well regulated" during the founders' time did not mean strictly controlled as one would think today. It meant "well functioning".

I'm an able bodied male between the ages of 17 and 45 so by definition, I am a member of the unorganized militia (organized would be the National Guard). I keep my skills and firearms in "well regulated" (well functioning) condition, therefore I am a part of the well regulated militia.

History is fun!

Chicago gun violence is claiming too many lives, especially minority school children so I understand his concern.

I don't know about Chicago, but the latest violence numbers show that, again, 2009 had a precipitous drop in violent crimes, despite the fact that 2009 was a record year for firearm and ammunition sales.

This court interprets the 2nd amendment without the regulated militia qualifier (like all gun advocates and the gun industry do). It is the center of their understanding of the constitution and its one unmovable heart beat interpretation.

Even if the courts said that you had to be part of a militia to own a firearm, it would not affect the problem one bit.

Chicago has a GANG PROBLEM. There are approximately 70,000 gang members in Chicago. This is the military wing of a multi-billion-dollar, multi-national drug business.

There is not one single firearm law that can be passed that will help with this problem. Even if you outlawed all firearms on the planet. The gangs of the narcotics industry have the financial and military means to acquire whatever armament they choose.

Adopts our constitution, I'll care about what they think one way or another.

The term was originally coined to describe the International Court of Justice (ICJ), whose remit is to arbitrate disputes between national governments. Since neither the City of Chicago, nor "the gun industry" is a national government, the ICJ has no jurisdiction.

Since 2002, there's also the International Criminal Court, whose remit is to prosecute serious violations of international humanitarian law--war crimes, crimes against humanity, and genocide--but only in a limited set of circumstances: the crime has to have been committed on the territory or against a citizen of a state party to the Rome Statute (the governing treaty), or referred to the ICC by the UN Security Council, and the national courts have to have proved themselves unwilling or unable to try the offense themselves. But since the United States isn't party to the Rome Statute, and "the gun industry" hasn't done anything that contravenes international humanitarian law, the ICC couldn't claim jurisdiction either (even if it wanted to).

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Come on, he's a Democrat, just like Specter! Labeling oneself as a Democrat must be a free ticket in your book.

of RKBA.

Wait, he already has their support and that includes the president.

material?

Brady Inc/VPC are as about anti-RKBA as it gets, do you know their party roots?

The author of the blog post you linked is.

Do you have any other sources to support your initial post?

I did not know that.

Anyways, every Google for Daley + world court leads to the intro of the Sun Times article but the rest is now archived or unaccessible. Not sure what to do about that.

But to answer your question, the Chicago Sun Times contained the original article quoted by everyone from RKBA sites to Charles Manson.

instead of some right wing blogger's interpretation of it.

so Google to your hearts cuntent, maybe you can shut down a bazillion websites in the process.

We had an earlier thread about this topic (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=118x314196), and this is the original link:
http://www.suntimes.com/news/politics/2206864,daley%1Egun%1Elawsuit%1Eworld%1Ecourt%1E042710.article

See?

As I wrote previously (http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=118&topic_id=314196&mesg_id=314198):



Those are two different institutions; disputes between states are the purview of the International Court of Justice. Violations of international humanitarian law are the purview of the International Criminal Court.

Since "the gun industry" isn't a state, it's outside the ICJ's bailiwick. And since the United States isn't a party to the Rome Statute, the ICC has no jurisdiction over violations of international humanitarian law that take place on U.S. territory and don't involve citizens of non-signatories, which is leaving aside the fact that "the gun industry" hasn't committed any violations of international humanitarian law to begin with.

In short, Daley's shit-ignorant (big surprise), and the Sun-Times' staff aren't much better informed.

of the term "Fucktardery".

However does he manage it?

When is Chicago going to rid itself of this family of corrupt losers?

Funny that.

I can see why you'd want to try the genetic fallacy here, as discussion of the facts in the OP makes
clear that one of your most vocal champions is a Palin-class idiot.

The cult of personality holds strong sway over this one.

When she beats him in '12, you better believe I'm going to say "I TOLD YOU SO!" Now if she'll just get a level head about the guns/cartels nonsense........

This guy is gonna make the anti-"New World Order" crowd look right.