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HarveyBrooks (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:09 PM Original message |
Findlay man shot to death by 7 year old son |
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tk2kewl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
1. all we need to do is provide the kids with training, or so they say... |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:25 PM Response to Reply #1 |
71. No, kids need to be provided with good training, not in this manner... |
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sharp_stick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:12 PM Response to Original message |
2. Way to teach a kid how to shoot |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
3. Gun training should begin with BLANKS, period. n/t |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #3 |
46. Close but still a fail |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #46 |
63. I tried. My bad.... n/t |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 03:16 PM Response to Reply #46 |
81. Or better yet, snap caps. |
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zanana1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
4. Second Amendment "freedom" strikes again. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:29 PM Response to Reply #4 |
21. 'worse', eh? |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:16 PM Response to Reply #21 |
40. But it feeeeels worse. I need a warm and fuzzy. Ban gunz, ban gunz!!!!! |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #4 |
64. What law short of a complete ban would have prevented this. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #4 |
72. Wrong again: "Loose gun laws = death" No. Look at the data. nt |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
5. I find it astonishing that the boys father would hand a seven year old a |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. I handled loaded weapons when I was seven. |
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GreenStormCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. I was taught to shoot at an early age. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #5 |
73. I was given instruction -- with a .22 rifle -- when 7-yrs-of-age... |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
6. The first thing we always taught our boys was NEVER point a gun at anything |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #6 |
9. That doesn't always work |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:04 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. Teen suicides are often spun as "playing Russian roulette" in the media to ease a family's pain |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. There were 5 kids in involved in this |
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Golden Raisin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:33 PM Response to Original message |
7. WHY on earth does a |
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napi21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:56 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. I can only tell you that the house my husband grew up in had dozens of |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:24 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. Might work if BOTH parents agree |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I love it |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. I don't like MEAT at all |
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HarveyBrooks (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. I love it |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:59 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. He never said he enjoyed it. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #29 |
54. No one said enjoy |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. How the hell did you get a deer into your fridge? |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
75. Or there is the case of Mary Zeiss Stange, Professor of Womens' Studies... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. I did when I was in the second grade. |
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HarveyBrooks (233 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. So.... |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:42 PM Response to Reply #30 |
33. The skills aren't that comparable. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. I was shooting by 7. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
74. Guns can be an important part of your life, one way or another... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 02:34 PM Response to Original message |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:02 PM Response to Original message |
11. The Second Amendment can't legislate stupidity. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #11 |
13. I have no doubt that boy's life will be affected permanently by this event |
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FLyellowdog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. I'm sorry about the loss of your father when you were so young. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. You are very kind. Thank you. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:54 PM Response to Reply #11 |
76. A study may be of interest, but the data is getting sketchy... |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
17. OMG someone died in an accident. there oughta be a LAW! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
22. Accidents don't justify the stripping of people's rights. |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
23. I wonder |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. My uncle used to tell me |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #31 |
77. This practice of running down game is still practiced... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 03:49 PM Response to Original message |
26. My Dad and Father-in-Law were both WW2 Combat Vets |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I've known combat vets that hate firearms and some that still enjoy the hobby ... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. That is my point |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. You don't really have a point. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:02 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. I don't see it as a canard, as much as purely emotion driven. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:59 PM Response to Reply #38 |
58. Yep, she's not rational at all. |
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Callisto32 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 06:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
69. What I mean is.. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Don't say NEVER |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. I'm not criticizing it. I'm criticizing the way you're using it. |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 08:18 PM Response to Reply #42 |
82. It's still anecdotal evidence |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #32 |
41. This is head-scratching goofy. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:01 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Take it up with my Dad and Father-in-law |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I can't speak for all here ... |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
67. "You know, I really think you pro gun people hate the me's of the world." |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 01:11 PM Response to Reply #43 |
79. No hate, here. I have seen a lot of it coming the other way, from some. nt |
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Euromutt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jul-15-10 05:12 AM Response to Reply #43 |
83. It's been remarked that the opposite of love isn't hate... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #41 |
45. Yes, they ARE stupid |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #32 |
47. I've worked several years in the ER |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
48. I completely missed this part of the post the first time through. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Perhaps these people would have used other means |
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MisterBill45 (109 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:08 PM Response to Reply #49 |
62. You do realize that a stabbing victim is vastly more likely to die than a shooting victim right? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
65. Overwhelming majority of gunshot victims survive. |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
50. I try to project "an aura" |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Been there, done that |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Obviously, I'm listening to your views ... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 09:26 AM Response to Reply #52 |
70. The best advice |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #32 |
53. My office in Viet Nam |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Hey at least you had the office W/ a view NT |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #55 |
80. The best thing about the "view" |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #53 |
60. If your tank was your office.... |
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one-eyed fat man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 08:25 PM Response to Reply #60 |
61. I often wondered |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. Your canard falls apart. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 06:05 PM Response to Reply #34 |
44. No,it isn't |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 07:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. "The fewer guns in the world, the BETTER." |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #44 |
66. Let me correct this for you: "The fewer guns in the hands of CRIMINAL, the better" |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jul-13-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #26 |
68. Opposite experience. |
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SteveM (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jul-14-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #26 |
78. Works both ways, combat experience... |
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