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MichaelHarris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:01 AM
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Gunman shoots 4 Texas policemen serving warrant
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 01:02 AM by MichaelHarris
"SAN ANTONIO -- A man with an assault rifle shot four San Antonio policemen entering his house Thursday to serve a search warrant, seriously injuring two of them before surrendering when SWAT officers returned a flash of gunfire, authorities said....charged a 29-year-old former prison inmate with four counts of attempted capital murder. " http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/11/AR2010111106625.html

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:12 AM
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1. While serving a narcotics warrant on an ex-convict with a long rap sheet
Carroll was released from prison in March 2008 following his sentence on federal drug charges, according to public records. He has also been previously arrested on other drug and weapons charges.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:16 AM
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2. Should have just blown up the fucking house.
See? Good fucking thing I'm not a cop...
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:19 AM
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3. Lady and kid were inside as well.
I'd rather legalize whatever he was trying to sell and send the cops after rapists and child molesters and financial criminals.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:22 AM
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4. Oops - gotta read slower...
I thought he was just another violent bonehead (irony alert...)....

I think all drugs should be legal for personal use and heavily regulated and taxed. Everything.

With treatment centers you can walk into and get a bed RIGHT THEN.

Then we go after the scumbag bankers and the Kochs and the rest of the real criminals.

While blowing up the occasional violent predator for shits and giggles.

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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:32 AM
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5. I can jump on board with that n/t
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:48 AM
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6. now if the cops had guns, they could have stopped this!
Isn't that right, gun people?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:21 AM
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9. The cops did stop it. Imagine marching 50 unarmed cops into that guys house
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:41 AM
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7. Ban gunmen, it's the only way we'll be safe.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 03:16 AM
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8. Police should not do home invasions
Because that is criminal in nature. They should grab people when they are out in the street.

Seems like the NICS check didn't stop this one from getting a gun.
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:53 PM
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14. Precisely.
There is no need for this he-man paramilitary bullshit most of the time.

The guy has to go out sometime. Wait for him and then nab him with no fuss.
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east texas lib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 07:29 PM
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19. This guy's hard core. He took on a tactical entry team all by himself...
He wasn't going down without taking somebody with him no matter where they tried to pop him.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 06:19 AM
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10. "Former prison inmate"; prison means felony conviction
Ergo, by all accounts, Mr. Carroll's possession of the firearm in question was already illegal. What laws currently not in existence would have deterred him from, or hampered him in, acquiring the firearm he used? Because it's a safe bet he didn't walk into his local gun shop and buy that "assault rifle" (which, given that this is the WaPo, means any semi-automatic rifle with a detachable magazine).

And hey, how about the killing power of those "assault rifles," huh? Possibly dozens of rounds fired, and zero fatalities. See, the SWAT team is probably wearing Level III body armor, which will stop assault rifle rounds. The cop wounded most badly was struck "beneath his protective armor." Now, if Carroll had been using a bolt-action deer rifle, he might have actually killed someone.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:31 AM
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11. Are you trying to imply
That he did not just walk into WalMart with a $100 and walk out with an assault rifle, no questions asked?
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Remmah2 Donating Member (971 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 08:36 AM
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12. Convicted felon?
nuff said, unrec.

Do you read this stuff before you post it?
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 11:06 AM
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13. Sounds like someone who should never have been allowed to leave prison
Edited on Fri Nov-12-10 11:06 AM by slackmaster
Convicted felon illegally in possession of a firearm.

No points awarded.

N&U

:nuke:
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 12:55 PM
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15. What is a "flash of gunfire?"
I wonder what a flash of gunfire is?

I suspect they threw in a flash-bang grenade.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 01:03 PM
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16. I doubt the guy had an actual "assault rifle" as well. n/t
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:01 PM
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17. You merely prove that future gun control should focus on taking guns away from violent criminals ...
not honest citizens.

Thanks. Good work.
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Kennah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-12-10 02:39 PM
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18. Per KSAT
http://www.ksat.com/news/25762822/detail.html

"... Carroll has previous drug charges and two murder charges."

As much as a I oppose the war on drugs, seems like this guy might have been well beyond the status of non-violent drug offender.

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