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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:14 PM
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NRA's Ohio boy.
the one that they raised his F to a B- so he could get elected is already screwing gun owners and sportsmen. You may remember he voted for AWB while in the U.S. Congress and voted to ban deer hunting. Besides the following, he has just fired all of the professionals in the DNR to hire his political hacks.

Screw the NRA political wing.






http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/

Governor-elect Kasich appoints anti-gun Highway Patrol bureaucrat to superintendent position
• Submitted by cbaus on Fri, 12/31/2010 - 07:00. Ohio Politics Gun Grabbers
by Chad D. Baus
The Columbus Dispatch reported recently that Governor-elect John Kasich has appointed Maj. John Born to serve as the next superintendent of the Ohio State Highway Patrol (OSHP).
The name John Born is quite familiar to pro-gun rights activists who were in the Buckeye State for the fight to pass a shall-issue concealed carry law, and his appointment to the top post in the bureaucracy of the OSHP is likely to provoke fears of dark days ahead for pro-gun legislation.
Born and the OSHP continued their insistence that concealed carry be illegal in a motor vehicle when concealed carry legislation was reintroduced in 2003. On February 13, 2003, Born was quoted as saying "We do not want a loaded firearm readily accessible to the driver of a car. If there's a dangerous situation and you're in your car, you can drive off."
Pro-CCW activists actually started keeping a victim count of all the people who tried to follow his ridiculous advice - and coined a term for what often happened to people who tried to just "drive off" when attacked. We called it "getting Borned."
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:18 PM
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1. The NRA endorsed Strickland but as far as I know never
spent one dime to get him re-elected.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:37 PM
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2. $25k to Strickland, $0 to Kasich
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:45 PM
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4. Are you sure about that? Those are numbers for the US House
and Senate, Strickland hasn't run for the House for years. That must have been his last House race several years ago.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:13 AM
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9. Is there another Ted Strickland in the house in 2010?
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 12:30 AM by X_Digger
OpenSecrets could have flubbed up, or it could be that the NRA reported it as a 'house' donation, rather than gubernatorial.

Here's Strickland's total donations from 1989*- 2010

http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.php?cycle=Career&cid=N00003730&type=I

National Rifle Assn $40,650 $0 $40,650

(No breakdown by year, though, so it could be congressional rather than gov.)

eta: typo'd 1998, 1989
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:21 AM
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10. That is for his career from 1989 to present. It is right above
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 12:23 AM by doc03
Ted Strickland's name.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:29 AM
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12. Umm, yah, that's what I said..
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 12:29 AM by X_Digger
Not sure if you missed it.

eta: Oh, I typo'd 1989 -> 1998
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:37 AM
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13. Ok, I have many other problems with Kasich besides guns.
Kasich is going to be a nightmare for Ohio. I predict one of the first things he will attempt is to pass a Right to Work law.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:40 AM
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14. Looks like it was a real squeaker.
Not sure I can buy into the whole conspiracy theory of the OP about the NRA secret-squirrel effort for Kasich, when there don't appear to be any Kasich donations in their independent expenditures, and Strickland was the first candidate of the 2010 election cycle to get the NRA's nod (which is typically a position of honor.)
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:46 PM
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5. They spent more than that on just one
ad for Portman. Zero adds for Strickland. Now the chickens have come home to roost for gun owners in Ohio.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:52 PM
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6. Giving Kasich a B- was worth
more than a million bucks in that race.

Kasich even put out a bull-crap flyer about what a great gun and hunting supporter he was. Only problem was, on the cover was a picture of a hunter in the field with a scoped rifle. Not even legal in Ohio. That pissed off a lot of sportsmen..
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:54 PM
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7. Scoped rifles are not illegal in Ohio. n/t
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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 09:12 AM
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18. To hunt with they are.
No rifle hunting in Ohio.
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doc03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 03:19 PM
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24.  Wrong, you are not permitted to use a modern rifle for deer or
Edited on Thu Jan-06-11 04:17 PM by doc03
turkey but you can use a black powder rifle .38 caliber or larger or a handgun .357 or larger for deer. You can also hunt small game with any rifle and you can use a scope. I have shot hundreds of groundhogs with a scoped .243 and a 30-06. I have shot rabbits, squirrel, crow, fox, raccoon and groundhogs with a scoped .22 rifle. A popular sport around here is shooting groundhogs and coyote
with a rifle at several hundred yards. There are no laws at all prohibiting a scope for hunting anything.

Page 34 of regulations: (Hunting methods) "Unless otherwise indicated, game may be taken with longbow, crossbow, or any caliber handgun, rifle, shotgun (10 gauge. or smaller), or airgun."

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-05-11 11:43 PM
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3. They raised Kasichs to a B-
from an F before the elections. If they had left it an F he would not have been elected. Strickland was sued in court by Kasich for claiming he was rated F by the NRA. Strickland won the suit, but it was all too late.

They also spent a lot of money and ran NRA adds for the Ohio Senator candidate. Not one for Strickland. When you have Palin for a spokesperson and Ted Nugent on the Board of Directors, you'll bend over backwards for a CEO from Lehman Brothers running for gov.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:02 AM
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:28 AM
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11. You've had it explained to you before..
If a candidate could never come around to the NRA's way of thinking, and thusly raise their rating, what motivation would candidates have to change their positions?

Candidates grades have changed from F's to B's, from A's to F's, and every combination in between, based on their actions.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:42 AM
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 12:57 AM
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16. I've really done it now.
Pissed off every poster, except one.

Thanks Doc.
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:05 AM
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17. Not me, safe...
... for once, I agree with you! :)
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:00 AM
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19. You might want to consider...
...that if everybody disagrees with you, maybe you're not the one who's not crazy.

Just a thought.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:14 PM
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23. Of the 166,000+ posters on DU
only the 20 or 30 that post on the gun forum disagree, I'm good with that.
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Euromutt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:50 PM
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25. But how many of the others are even aware of this topic?
It's quite possible that the rest don't disagree, but they don't agree either because they aren't aware of the issue, or don't care enough to have an opinion, or whatnot. It doesn't mean they all agree with you.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:19 PM
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26. I'm sure not all agree with me.
I am sure that most are not at the extreme end of the gun issue. Most polls indicate the majority of Americans are fine with the current laws and see no need to change the laws in either direction. I would also think that most DUers don't agree with Nugent, Palin or the Brady Campaign.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 10:16 AM
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 11:48 AM
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21. Some Democrats do this to, sadly. n/t
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Atypical Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-06-11 01:13 PM
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22. I use the NRA to help decide who to vote for.
In my last election, all of my Democratic candidates except one had good marks from the NRA. I did not vote for the fellow with the F rating. 3 of my candidates were actually endorsed by the NRA.

There is always the risk of a turn-coat or lip-service person getting into office anyway. Hopefully they get outed and take the appropriate hit in votes and endorsements.

You can see my ballot in my sig.

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