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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:19 PM
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BREAKING: Report: 10 Killed During Violence in Cairo Square (Gunshot wounds)
At least 10 people have been killed during violent clashes between pro- and anti-government supporters in a Cairo square, a doctor at makeshift clinic treating the casualties told Reuters Thursday.

Dr. Sayyid Hussein said the makeshift clinic, which was operating out of a mosque near the square, had registered 10 deaths.

"An hour and a half ago, two people were rushed to me with gunshot wounds to the head," Hussein told Reuters.

Another doctor, Yasser Tibi, said: "They were gasping and died. A third case followed, which was very severe, but that case was taken to hospital by ambulance."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/02/03/report-killed-violence-cairo-square/#ixzz1CuvhcMKt

Before anyone complains about the source, I have breaking news feeds from CNN, MSNBC and FOX. This is the only mention of this incident, at this time, by any of the 3.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:34 PM
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1. bastards
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:35 PM
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2. Yup, although in fairness, it doesn't say whether the dead are pro or anti gov't
But I know where I'd put my money.
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Nuclear Unicorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:47 PM
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3. I don't understand any of this
Even if Mubarak wins what has he won? Several million people that hate him more than ever?

Have the mullahs in Iran done anything more than delay the inevitable but now with more serious consequences?

All of it is logic-defying. The world is no longer isolated fiefdoms. You can't shut down all information anymore and you can't kill enough people to shut everyone up forever.

Mubarak and others like him could have just sent their families and entourages somewhere else with whatever money they could stuff in their pockets on the way out and the people would have cuts their losses and left it at that.

Now it's bloody.

It's stupid, pointless bloody-mindeness.

So sad. So very sad.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:17 PM
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4. It isn't about Mubarak. It's about putting Suleiman in.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:26 PM
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5. Strong gun control in Egypt has assured that pro-Mubarak people are the ones with the guns
In Yemen the 2nd most heavily armed people on earth the protests were peaceful with little violence, no deaths and the people also got their president to vow not to seek reelection.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 12:12 AM
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6. this proves once again
Guns are tools of state oppression, not of freedom.

Mubarak wants to justify a crackdown, so he is arming thugs to try and incite violence.

Guns don't protect freedom, they endanger freedom.
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mvccd1000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 12:50 AM
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7. Re: "Guns don't protect freedom, they endanger freedom."
Very true, if the government has all the guns. Thank you for proving the point you seem to be arguing against.
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HankyDubs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 03:51 AM
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9. that's exactly wrong
Edited on Fri Feb-04-11 03:52 AM by HankyDubs
A point I've been making here for a week now.

Mubarak WANTS the peaceful protests to turn violent. He WANTS the peaceful protesters to arm themselves and start firing on the police and the army. That's the justification he is dying for, the justification to use tanks and bombs against the opposition.

Your gun does not protect my freedom. It doesn't protect your freedom. It only undermines both.
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AtheistCrusader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 01:21 AM
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8. Unless of course, the people being oppressed have them.
Hell, people who don't even have SHOES managed to defeat a better-equipped American army in Vietnam.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 09:17 AM
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10. If the pro-democracy protesters had all
been armed and fired back, it would be a blood bath with thousands killed on both sides. The army would have stepped in and give legitimacy to the pro government side and destroyed world opinion for the freedom fighters. A great lesson for all.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 09:42 AM
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11. Am I to assume, based on your post
you're fine with 10 protestors being shot and killed as long as they couldn't fire back?

By all means, correct me if I'm wrong, but that's the way it comes off, to me.

Just curious.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 09:44 AM
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12. From your post one might assume that you
would like to see thousands, if not millions gunned down and the President stay in control.
That is the way it comes off to me. Also curious.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 09:46 AM
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13. You didn't answer the question.
I'd prefer NO ONE got gunned down. But if I'm being shot AT, I'd like to be able to return fire.

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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 10:07 AM
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14. That is simple
don't risk your life for something you don't believe in. You wouldn't be one of those being shot at.
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shadowrider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 10:09 AM
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15. You didn't answer the question again.
But that's typical.

I'm done.
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safeinOhio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 12:00 PM
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16. It is typical for me to respond
this way to a rhetorical question.

A rhetorical question is a figure of speech in the form of a question posed for its persuasive effect without the expectation of a reply (e.g.: "Why me?")<1> Rhetorical questions encourage the listener to think about what the (often obvious) answer to the question must be. When a speaker states, "How much longer must our people endure this injustice?", no formal answer is expected. Rather, it is a device used by the speaker to assert or deny something.

I answered yours with one of mine and you also didn't answer it for the same reason.

That is my answer. You have asked me something to assert or deny something. It is obvious that different situations of being shot at require different responses. One answer is not enough.

The protesters are checking those entering the square to prevent guns from entering. That is their choice, not yours. Yours would be to not enter the square without your gun. I'd say their strategy is working, with only 10 shot and we don't know if they were protesters or counter protesters. It is not over yet, but few revolutiions end so well. I'd give them credit, rather than criticism for their success.
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