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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 11:30 PM Original message |
Why I carry a gun |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
1. nobody cares |
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rl6214 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 12:15 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Then why did you even bother posting |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 07:46 AM Response to Reply #4 |
60. i could ask you the same question |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
2. Thanks for that... |
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safeinOhio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 12:09 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. You are correct |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
15. Yeah, but that 25% does that... |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:50 AM Response to Original message |
5. You're making a classic mistake in your outlook. If you can get a gun, so can others. |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Here's my problem. |
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sharesunited (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 02:01 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. If I may. You're trying to make a distinction between |
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spin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:51 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Because many people use firearms in a responsible manner... |
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NewMoonTherian (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 07:58 PM Response to Reply #7 |
58. I'm not sure I grasp your analogy. |
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ProgressiveProfessor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 02:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. You are making the classic mistake of taking away self defense options from those who need it most |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #5 |
12. So |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. That is the crux of your argument. |
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RSillsbee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 05:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. The words of my father ring in my ears: "With great privilege comes great responsibility." |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
10. Too bad you don't think of society and your children's future with too many guns in public. |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 08:10 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Of course I carry when my family is not present. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 09:36 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Luckily, the odds of a gun helping you ain't high. You are a lot more likely to die of illness. |
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armueller2001 (477 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. And that's fine with me. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:36 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. WON'T SOMEOBODY PLEASE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!111!!!11!!! |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:43 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. OK, think of the 303,820,536 Americans who don't see the need to tote. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:45 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. No one is holding that against them or trying to change their minds. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:13 AM Response to Reply #20 |
24. Take your mind off your guns and look around. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #24 |
30. Cannot parse. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:07 AM Response to Reply #18 |
23. You mean like me? |
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Common Sense Party (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 03:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
39. I'm pro-choice, too!!! It's MY body, I'll defend it how I see fit. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #10 |
22. I think you have an mistaken fear of CCW holders. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:22 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Any fool who is not a felon can get a permit too easily in most states. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:39 AM Response to Reply #25 |
26. Fools and cowboys have Constitutional rights |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. So, you admit that they are not a problem... |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Look at the DATA |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Typical of you |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
19. Right here is the fundamental difference. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 11:44 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Actually, I would go even furthar... |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:45 PM Response to Reply #19 |
32. I don't want to put safety of my family in the holster of those who think they are police/judge/jury |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #32 |
33. Perhaps you missed it when your knee jerked? |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. And I said I prefer for my family not to be exposed to gun toters in public places. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 01:56 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. Then tell your family to not go around assaulting people who might be armed. Pretty simple, really. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 03:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. My family doesn't assault people, period. They are hyper-law abiding and don't pack in public. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 03:56 PM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Then why the irrational fear? n/t |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #40 |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:31 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Aha, it's ideology, not risk.. *copy* *paste* *save* |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:21 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Please read my post carefully. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. You might not be a yahoo, but there are plenty who are -- like most T-baggers.. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 06:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. That may be so. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 06:45 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. It's based upon personal experience. Where I live, gun carriers are mostly T-baggers. |
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Katya Mullethov (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 07:47 PM Response to Reply #53 |
57. At HoytCo...we specialize in underestimating the competition . |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 09:44 PM Response to Reply #53 |
59. If they don't break the law, who cares? |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 03:10 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Again, you have a MISPLACED FEAR. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 03:32 PM Response to Reply #36 |
37. No, they are not all hyper-lawabiding. Some think they are in militias, are often racist, etc. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. How is it that you've missed the word 'concealed' repeatedly? |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. He has a steretotype and can't let go. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:07 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Not all, just the VAST MAJORITY OF THEM. |
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Hoyt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:40 PM Response to Reply #42 |
49. I doubt that CCW holders are any "better" than the average person who could get a CCW. |
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Atypical Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 06:27 PM Response to Reply #49 |
52. Your doubts are not born out by the FACTS. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:50 PM Response to Reply #49 |
64. "expose other people... to them" |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 04:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
65. There is an ointment... |
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Glassunion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 07:17 PM Response to Reply #42 |
55. Just for more clarification... Conviction rates of CCW in one easy post.... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. But you assign those unsavory attributes to all gun owners |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 03:47 PM Response to Reply #37 |
63. A light fisking... |
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rrneck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 04:27 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. When you find a way to make your personal preferences |
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oneshooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #32 |
56. So you are saying that Democrats who have a CHL.... |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Feb-16-11 07:07 PM Response to Original message |
54. Why I carry |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
61. I'm coming around. This is a little long winded |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 02:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. I'd recommend any of the books on the subject by Massad Ayoob. |
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Bonhomme Richard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 08:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I read some online. Good reads. n/t |
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DWC (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 10:28 PM Response to Original message |
67. A gun is like a parachute |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-17-11 11:04 PM Response to Original message |
68. I carry because I have been threatened |
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