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Brilliantrocket Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 04:52 PM
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Reaction to 30 round magazines being banned
I think this guy might be a teabagger.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aApZ6kwEutw
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GreenStormCloud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:00 PM
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1. Sound to me like he is mocking those who are buying hi-cap mags...
...in anticipation of a ban driving up prices.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 12:14 AM
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25. based on the level
of intellectual content it sounds like it was made by a frequent poster here...












yup
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:26 PM
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2. A friend told me last night
He went to a local gun shop to get some 22 round magazines for his GLOCK (40 S&W) and the counter guy told him they couldn't keep them in stock.

He said the guy told him they were going out the door as fast as they came in.

I guess you could call it the Carolyn McCarthy Stimulus package
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:39 PM
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3. gun store owner keeping names?
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Brilliantrocket Donating Member (196 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:46 PM
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4. What do you imply by that?
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:50 PM
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5. Just wondering. Since those with aggressive tendencies often use them.
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:54 PM
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6. Big fan of the No-Fly list, aintchya? n/t
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S_B_Jackson Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 05:56 PM
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7. One is "often"?
I guess in a binary world that's alot.......
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:07 PM
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9. You might want to get your facts straight.
I seem to recall just off the top of my head that the incidents at Virginia Tech and North Hollywood all used high capacity mags.
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:16 PM
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10. No... in the VT incident he used standard capacity magazines.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 07:51 PM
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17.  No... in the VT incident he used LESS THAN standard capacity magazines.
all 10 rounders
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Glassunion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 08:00 PM
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19. I stand corrected...
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:21 PM
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11. That's great advice - try and follow it
Edited on Wed Feb-16-11 07:16 PM by DonP
The "top of your head" is wrong.

The VT shooting, NIU and IIRC all the other high profile shooting incidents all used flush fit, standard capacity magazines. North Hollywood used "real" select fire AK-47s and 30 rounds is the standard magazine size.

But if you can find several that used 30 round handgun magazines we're all open to correction. We'll wait here for your results.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 01:55 AM
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26. Not to mention the North Hollywood weapons were HIGHLY ILLEGAL.
Illegally converted automatic weapons are good for a 10 year stint in federal prison.
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S_B_Jackson Donating Member (564 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 02:17 PM
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33. Total Recall - NOT!
At VT Cho used a Glock 19 with standard capacity 15 round magazines, and a Walther P22 with standard capacity 10 round magazines.

North Hollywood - 14 years ago, BTW (which hardly qualifies, IMO, as "often") - is a different kettle of fish entirely. There the assailants had 4 illegally modified automatic-fire rifles, a semi-automatic rifle all using high-capacity magazines, and a semi-auto pistol (using standard capactiy magazines).
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:26 AM
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27. ?
People with aggressive tendencies use a lot of things.

See my signature...
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:10 AM
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29. Those who own guns for any lawful purpose often use them....
Edited on Thu Feb-17-11 08:11 AM by benEzra
because a 10-round limit bans standard factory magazines for popular civilian guns, going back to the fricking 1860's for civilian rifles and the 1930's for civilian pistols.* Restricting all 11 to 30 round magazines as "high capacity" is as disingenuous as restricting all 11 to 30 week abortions as "late term."

A ban on a quarter billion magazines owned by ~40 million likely voters is just stupid from a political standpoint, even if it had any bearing on violence reduction, which it doesn't.

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*Don't believe me? Google is your friend:

Henry Repeating Rifle (1861), .44 rimfire, capacity 16+1
Winchester Model 1873 (1873), .44-40/.38-40/.32-20/.22 rimfire, capacity 15+1
Evans Repeating Rifle (1873), .44 Evans, capacity 28 or 34
Colt AR-15 (1961), .223 Remington, capacity 20 or 30

Browning P35 (1935), 9x19mm, capacity 13+1 (this gun pretty much defined the modern 9mm)
Beretta 92 (1972), 9x19mm, capacity 15+1
Smith & Wesson Model 59 (1973), capacity 14+1
Glock 17 (1984), 9x19mm, capacity 17+1
Ruger P-85 (1985), 9x19mm, capacity 15+1
Glock 19 (1988), 9x19mm, capacity 15+1
Springfield XD/HS 2000 (1999), 9x19mm, capacity 16+1
Springfield XDM (2008), 9x19mm, capacity 19+1
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:45 PM
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14. There's no requirement to record names of people who buy magazines that hold 10+ rounds ...
nor should there be.

Why kill good trees or waste computer memory for such a stupid idea?
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:27 PM
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12. Of course they are selling fast. The gun obsessed love the most deadly weapons/accessories.


They did the same with ammo after Obama was elected. And, it ain't for protection/defense.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:38 PM
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13. Imagine that - an ignorant politician demands a ban on something and it starts selling fast!
Wow, who'd a thought it.

McCarthy pulls her single issue chestnut out of her bottom desk drawer and tries to get it on the docket, the gun control minded media all chime in demanding a magazine ban. So people go out and buy up what's out there. Those murdering savages.

So if stocking up on ammo isn't for protection or defense, are you suggesting an upcoming rash of killings? I mean it couldn't be as simple as we wanted to beat the price increases or something as obvious as that.

Seems to me that if anyone here is obsessed it's gun control people that see conspiracies behind every tree and every gun owner as a mass murderer any minute now .... wait for it .... well pretty soon anyway.

Do you ever write anything that makes sense or is based even vaguely on reality. Or just the usual bumper sticker regurgitation we see from you?
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:52 PM
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15. Speculating in novelty magazines is better than speculating on wheat or oil
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 08:01 PM
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20. Apparantly, these weren't novelty magazines
when he said it he was referencing two standard sized magazines on his belt. I know CZ makes a Polymer 40S&W that holds 18 rounds in a standard magazine. Maybe I misunderstood and he meant magazines for his GLOCK 22
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ProgressiveProfessor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 09:52 AM
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32. The poster I was responding to does not understand the differences
between the standard magazine for a handgun and one that it oversize. Not interested in learning either
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:55 PM
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16. Then why didn't they sell as fast BEFORE the Tucson shooting?
Every time the people who feel the solution to a single isolated incident involving a firearm is the BAN SOMETHING, shooters run out to buy the item or items.

So because some fools simply mentioned the idea, the sales of standard and high capacity magazines have skyrocketed. This is exactly the opposite of what those who love to ban things want to happen.

I can't think of any time where a ban on an item was successful in accomplishing what it was intended to do. Bans go against basic human nature.

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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 07:55 PM
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18. Both ammunition and magazines are fairly durable items
(at least in terms of shelf life) And neither one will ever be cheaper than they are right now.

Tell me again why I shouldn't stock up?
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rl6214 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 11:37 PM
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21. Used to be I could get 1000 rounds of 223 for $100
Now it's around $300 and it's got nothing to do with and fantasies you might have. It's got everything to do with supply and demand and two wars being fought. without those wars I could afford to go out and shoot more often. And it really dosen't have a whole lot to do with Obama being elected. I also shoot them out of my standard capacity 30 round mag in my Ar15.
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Callisto32 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 07:30 AM
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28. If that were true, HPs would sell out faster than FMJ's.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 06:01 PM
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8. He sure the fuck isn't much of a videographer
Whatever he drinks.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 11:44 PM
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22. I had a fantastic idea, being that people don't often fight against a ban
unless they own said object. I decided to start gifting high cap magazines to people I know who don't have high cap magazines yet.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-16-11 11:47 PM
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23. The largest magazine I own holds 12 rounds
shall I PM you my address and a list of my high cap magazine needs?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 12:05 AM
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24. lol
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 08:12 AM
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30. 12 rounds? That's a "weapon of mass destruction," dontcha know.
I hear that the U.S. military used a pistol with a 12-round magazine to blow up Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 09:33 AM
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31. It was probably a a Jennings NT
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