confused about the CCW on campus in Texas issue? Here is a well balanced view of how students feel

http://www.campusreform.org/blog/concealed-carry-on-campus-in-texas

•The SGA at Texas A&M-Galveston became the first to endorse concealed carry on campus.
•The SGA at Texas State University became the second to voice approval for concealed carry on campus back in November of 2010.
•The SGA at Texas Tech conducted a poll that showed students on that campus favored concealed carry by 72% to 28%.
•A referendum in favor of concealed carry failed at Texas A&M-College Station by 57% to 43%.
•A bill in favor of concealed carry in the Baylor University Student Senate narrowly failed to pass by one vote.
•The Student Congress at the University of Texas at Arlington voted 36-6 against concealed carry on campus.

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What we see here is conflicting data. Students at Texas Tech and A&M aren't really that different politically; however, the voting results are very different. I'm not taking either one of these as the absolute truth, but allowing the opposite side to be seen is important, I'm talking about the evidence that there is a lot of support for CCW on campus among students in Texas.

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About as "well balanced" as Fox News.

Nice cherrypicking.

But you knew that.

Sorry.

presents both sides pretty well. If you don't agree you can quote the article and show me.

n/t

politically neutral material on the internet isn't easy.

You're full of 'em tonight!

:thumbsup:

I guess we should reject EPA regulations because that agency was started by Richard Nixon....

did not actually vote/act in the way described? The OP didn't endorse or even bring over any comments or discussion from the website in question, so what exactly are you objecting to? As long as the data points are reliable (and I see no reason to suspect they aren't), why does it matter where they were extracted from? :shrug:

yup

article that is being knee-jerkingly dismissed as propaganda.

I think that is up to we, the people and our representatives. They will pass this.

The difference between these two groups is???

http://lubbockonline.com/local-news/2011-03-07/proposed-laws-could-bring-guns-tech-classrooms?v=1299573110

purhaps another right wing website, who knows, it's texas.

to a classroom full of gun toting students. It might even change the way I approach my subject matter. Well, we'll see how this great social experiment plays out.

don't bother to pack a firearm every day. That's a huge commitment to gear and training and most folks just don't see the necessity. What it represents to them is the option of going armed if they feel it is in their best interest. Of all the CCW holders I know personally, only one other than myself carries daily.

IOW, you won't notice the change. The sky won't fall.

"Toting" again? It's almost as if a script is in circulation.

assuming these laws pass, a student would need to be 21+, have no criminal background, take a day long course and prove their profeciency, subject their fingerprints/address/and other personal information to ta federal database, pay the class registration fee as well as the processing fee (several hundred dollars), own a gun, want to carry, and choose to do so on that day.


In other words your class isn't going to be "full" of gun toting students.

Any more than having legalized private planes means that all of a sudden everyone is a pilot.

Maybe you'll have one in your classroom, if that.

let us know how that's working out.

This post accurately and objectively reported the facts. Whatever the source, these are the facts.

I personally appreciate the information.

Semper Fi,

from the website

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What next FoxNews is Fair and Balanced?

They suck

yup

figure in?

Do you think the weekend weather forecast from the Wall Street Journal is less trustworthy than that from the NY Times, when they're both just reporting the NWS-provided outlook? :shrug:

Defend this crap all you want

but it is still RW crap

yup

disparate views (although, survey methodology and sample sizes may play a role).

It doesn't matter who compiled the raw information; I think the OP has added some useful content for our discussion...

a little originality would be good, "asshole" GOP/NRA/REPUBLICAN/FREE STATER/TEABAGGER/RIGHT WING.

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Debate the data.

YOU CAN'T DO IT.

http://www.campusreform.org/about/faq

This is what campusreform.org believes

This is why they want guns on campus

to defend against "hostile" leftists "surrounding" them

It's self-defense you see

justifiable homicide

castle doctrine, etc.

they suck

yup

prominent (out spoken) anti gunners here is known for posting.