Gun rights group ripped for comparing gun owners to Nazi victims

SPRINGFIELD — A state senator from the North Side called on a downstate gun-rights group to apologize for using a gold Star of David — like the ones Jews were forced to wear in Nazi Germany — in an effort to compare the plight of gun-owners to that of victims of the Holocaust.

State Sen. Ira Silverstein on Thursday criticized the group, Guns Save Life, for publishing an article comparing the treatment of 6 million Jews during the Holocaust with that of Illinois gun owners battling to keep their names private in an open-records dispute involving Attorney General Lisa Madigan and the Illinois State Police.

“This is a poor analogy, a very poor analogy,” said Silverstein (D-Chicago), who is Jewish and represents numerous Holocaust survivors in his district that includes Rogers Park and Skokie. “It brings back horrible memories. To compare this to Lisa Madigan is totally absurd.

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In its April issue of GunNews, the gun-rights group has a bold headline titled “Madigan’s list” in an apparent play off the movie, “Schindler’s List.” And below that is a graphic showing the Israeli flag with the phrase, “Armed, people fly their colors,” next to the gold Star of David with the phrase, “Disarmed, victims wear them.”

http://www.suntimes.com/4953584-417/gun-rights-group-ripped-for-comparing-gun-owners-to-nazi-victims.html

They should be ripped for that analogy.

yup

So I'm cool with the analogy considering you know, it actually happened.

pathetic victimhood fail

yup

Earlier there was some discussion, I won't mention names, but one person in particular was trying to say that Guns rights people ALWAYS use facts and I think this proves that notion is wrong. That is AWAYS not most of the time or a lot of the time but ALWAYS!

Not about the world in general. I'm also not convinced said individual said "always."

Regulations Against Jews' Possession of Weapons
11 November 1938
With a basis in §31 of the Weapons Law of 18 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p.265), Article III of the Law on the Reunification of Austria with Germany of 13 March 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 237), and §9 of the Führer and Chancellor's decree on the administration of the Sudeten-German districts of 1 October 1938 (Reichsgesetzblatt I, p 1331) are the following ordered:
§1
Jews (§5 of the First Regulations of the German Citizenship Law of 14 November 1935, Reichsgesetzblatt I, p. 1333) are prohibited from acquiring, possessing, and carrying firearms and ammunition, as well as truncheons or stabbing weapons. Those now possessing weapons and ammunition are at once to turn them over to the local police authority.

§2
Firearms and ammunition found in a Jew's possession will be forfeited to the government without compensation.

§3
The Minister of the Interior may make exceptions to the Prohibition in §1 for Jews who are foreign nationals. He can entrust other authorities with this power.

§4
Whoever willfully or negligently violates the provisions of §1 will be punished with imprisonment and a fine. In especially severe cases of deliberate violations, the punishment is imprisonment in a penitentiary for up to five years.

§5
For the implementation of this regulation, the Minister of the Interior waives the necessary legal and administrative provisions.

§6
This regulation is valid in the state of Austria and in the Sudeten-German districts.

Berlin, 11 November 1938
Minister of the Interior
Frick

I think the graphic described is an Oleg Volk poster, and knowing him, he meant in a significantly more general context than whatever's going on in Illinois right now.

And while I may sympathize with the gun group's concern regarding the threat to their privacy, resorting to an argumentum ad nazium is generally inadvisable, except when you're talking about actual genocides.

Warsaw Ghetto uprising April 19 until May 16, 1943, and ended when the poorly armed and supplied resistance was crushed by the German troops under the direct command of Jürgen Stroop. It was the largest single revolt by the Jews during the Holocaust.

Maybe being born in Germany in 1942 makes me more sensitive, but I grew up knowing relatives that were true believers. I have one uncle, 97 years old, still living, and in Canada. His blood type is tattooed on the underside of his left arm. Doubtless he celebrated yesterday. He has been unrepentant for as long as I can remember.

The graphic is an Oleg original. FWIW I'm, pretty sure Oleg isn't religious but I do belive he is an ethnic Jew. As such I think this issue hit's close to home for him.

That graphic is pretty old so I'm positive it wasn't meant as comentary on any recent event

Gun control gives dictators the ability to decide who owns the guns.

But you know this.

taking away guns from the citizenry.


Remind you of anyone?

what do they do to the protesters with guns ?

And I honestly think you'd be hard pressed to find someone further from being a Nazi than me. Tell me: what about seeing me carry an AR15 while protesting makes you think "brownshirt?"

Now, if you want to take it back and say instead that I remind you instead of a "browncoat," all will be forgiven.

have much power. This sounds like a JPFO thing

http://jpfo.org/

...before he pronounces any more fatuous declarations.

And yes, I've meet a few Camp survivors, back when I was about 10. Scared hell out of me then, and more so a few years later, living in central Africa, when it dawned on me what starvation and forced labor were actually about, not to mention armed thugs and unarmed slaves.