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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:34 AM
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My husband owns a lot of guns. He loves to go to gun shows,
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 12:34 AM by napi21
but never buys anything. He has in the past bought some ammo because some of the dealers offer great prices. He goes to a target range several times a year. I think some people here get too excited about people owning guns. everyone I've known own them for sport or hunting. When we were first married, it was a life saver to have venison to suppliment our grocery bill. I learned how to cook it well and everyone was happy.
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:40 AM
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1. Was this supposed to be a response to Hoopla Phil's thread?
Either way, I think you're accurately describing a large proportion of US gun owners...
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:42 AM
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2. same here except for the venison it's been goose and duck for us
and I got a surprise when I asked him why on earth anyone would have an extended clip, he said he had one I did not know) and that he had it for going to the range with the gun it's for because constantly changing clips can be annoying and make your hand sore
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:43 AM
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3. Uggghh Geese are too fatty for me NT
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azurnoir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:47 AM
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4. Wild geese aren't fatty at all in our case Canadian geese
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 01:07 AM by azurnoir
in fact you have to brine them and actually add fat when cooking or thy come out so tough they're uneatable
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:49 AM
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6. Maybe I was eating domestic geese
I eat the occasional cougar too
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:55 AM
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8. "I eat the occasional cougar too " OMFG I almost busted a rib laughing at that!!! n/t
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newfie11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 06:07 AM
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10. I did taste deep fried cougar once
It would have been good if I didn't know what it was.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 11:34 AM
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17. I think there's a subtle nuance here that you are missing NT
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burrfoot Donating Member (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 02:31 AM
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9. +1 !!!!!!!!!!!!
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 11:53 AM
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18. Dangerous Game indeed, sir. n/t
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 01:48 PM
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21. The deadliest catch NT
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 09:19 PM
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35. But the Hunt, and the Celebration of Success....
are Sweet Wine to the soul.

O.K., I gotta stop doing that.....
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:48 AM
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5. Most people are fine having guns in the home and lock them up
appropriately. Unfortunately, that doesn't go for those who are depressed or have anger control issues. My father's best friend--who was so like my Dad, went hunting with my Dad and who I always thought to be like a kindly uncle--should not have had those guns in the home. I'll just say that his emotions got the better of him and that ready supply of guns was not a good thing--for him or his wife. This was a sad and sentinel event in my childhood. My Dad was never really the same after that and frankly, i never looked at guns the same, either.

Sorry, to bring the "downer" reality to the discussion, but the point is sadly repeated on a near daily basis in this country.
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 12:50 AM
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7. When you cook a venison roast, do you marinate it in milk?
I've found that marinating in milk leaches out the "gaminess" out of it. I also slow cook it in a crock pot with lots of veggies and a bit of beef broth. Always came out great!!!! (crap, now I'm getting hungry)
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 10:01 AM
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14. I like the gaminess it adds to the taste, IMHO
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 01:52 PM
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22. How are you shooting your meat?
Venison always tasted bland to me. I have heardthat the "gamey" taste comes form shooting the animal on the run when the meat is full of adrenalin.

I love the taste of Antelope
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DissedByBush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 09:06 PM
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50. Half a bottle of red wine in the slow cooker
And try rutabaga instead of potatoes.
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rrneck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 10:45 AM
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15. +100000 Note the DU handle. nt
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PavePusher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 08:49 AM
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13. What's wrong with "assault weapons"?
What makes one firearm an "assault weapon" and another, not?
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 11:11 AM
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16. Yes making civil rights easy is scary. Imagine if people could go vote with ease or protest with
Ease. Imagine if you could go easily access a dangerous book.
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 01:06 PM
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19. redneck??
All those misanthropic blue collar types that keep your car running, your grocery shelves filled, water and electricty coming to your McMansion and do all the REAL work so you won't have to break a nail?
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tortoise1956 Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 11:42 PM
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38. Redneck?
When I was growing up, I used to hate being called a redneck. Then I went out into the world, and discovered that the most trustworthy, honest, and courageous people I met were what the upper crust called rednecks. I guarantee that if you look at any military outfit, in any branch, you will find a disproportionate number of rednecks. They joined because they were taught that being an American doesn't come free - and they go out and put their lives on the line to pay back that obligation. They are one of the reasons that America is still great in so many ways.

So if you want to call me a redneck, I will gladly agree with you...
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 02:36 PM
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24. to piggy back on one eye
Those "rednecks, hicks, yahoos" are the same people marching on Madison. In addition, to fixing your car etc. They grow your food, kill the cow that you are stuffing your face with so you don't have to do the uncivilized thing and go kill your own food.
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benEzra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 03:53 PM
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26. "Assault weapons" and carry licensure...
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 03:55 PM by benEzra
the assault weapons

More Americans own "assault weapons" (small- and intermediate-caliber civilian rifles with modern styling) than hunt. AR's and whatnot dominate sport shooting in this country, and are among the least misused guns in the United States. I'm a competitive shooter, FWIW, but like most gun owners I don't hunt.

the redneck movement to allow people to carry weapons anywhere - in churches, at schools and such.

I hold a NC carry license; qualifying for it involved a Federal background check, a state background check, a mental health records check, an FBI fingerprint check, a state-sanctioned class on self-defense law, and demonstration of competence on a shooting range.

I'm afraid I'm going to object to your "redneck" characterization here; I've mentioned many times before that I'm a technical writer and computer geek myself, B.A. and some grad work in English, my dream car is a Volvo, I despise football and NASCAR, and I carry a S&W Lady Smith. If I were to collide with an actual redneck, we'd probably undergo a matter/antimatter reaction and annihilate in a burst of gamma rays.

I seriously doubt the guy in the woods with the .30-30, the pickup, and the Skoal hat cares more about carry licensure than the urban/suburban handgun owner.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 12:11 AM
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40. to paraphrase Jeff Foxworthy
If you are a guy who carries a Lady Smith, you are not a redneck.
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 01:33 PM
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20. I live and attend school in Montana. Both of my chemistry lab partners were hunters.
They would chit chat about how much they loved the Montana wilderness and eating game before our professor started his lectures. They're both nursing students now.

These are the type of people I picture when I think of gun owners.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 02:24 PM
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23. Well, people I have known used them to vandalize property and murder my classmates...eom
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 02:52 PM
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25. I guess the real difference is experience isn't it?
Edited on Tue Jun-14-11 02:53 PM by gejohnston
I had no such experience. While we all know people who have vandalized and murdered, all of the ones I knew were with cars or done themselves in with drugs and booze. The only people I knew who even pulled a gun on another person was my brother when he answered a radio call to the first armed robbery in ten years. The other was a someone in my high school who shot and killed his step father to save his mom from an abusive drunken rage. The county DA did not even bother to prosecute because it was a clear case of justifiable homicide.
And this is in Wyoming.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 05:02 PM
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28. Who said
they would shoot an unarmed teenager running down the street?
Sick fashion statement? That is in the eye beholder.

They did not say will be beaten in a park
You also read about the crimes deterred by many of those here and their family members
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 05:29 PM
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29. It's his generic "here"-- so that when he gets called on his bullshit, he can say he meant his area
Rather than what he actually intended, which was at DU.

Of course, he then has no burden of proving anything, either.
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oneshooter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 05:55 PM
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30.  He carries a very heavy burden.
After all that much Bullshit can't be light!

Oneshooter
Armed and Livin in Texas
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 09:46 PM
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36. umm let me see if I remember right
I do believe said the problem with the pharmacist was that he continued to shoot him when he was down. No one defended that. The first shot could have very well been self defense.
Was she unarmed? I thought I read that she stole a gun. If she had one and was aiming it at you, things get complex.
Depends on the property, that was pointed out. If stealing an oxygen tank and you need it to live, that is not the same as a tv or vcr. Same with expensive tools that you use in a trade to buy food and pay the mortgage.
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eqfan592 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 12:05 AM
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39. Excelent points. nt
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 08:01 AM
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41. Oxygen tank? Come on. The 12 yo girl had no gun. The pharmacist killed the defenseless robber.
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gejohnston Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:19 AM
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42. you missed a lot of nuance
the issue with the girl turned from what happened to what if. I don't have time to go back and look at it. You missed the larger point. Legally, in some places, a finger in a jacket pocket claiming to have a gun is the same as having a gun. No one said they would shoot an unarmed girl. They said they would if the girl was aiming one at them. Big difference.
No one supported the pharmacist after the robber was down.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 08:30 PM
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33. Here = Gungeon. See Post #31.
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Hoyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 08:28 PM
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32. See post #31 about gunners who see little problem with shooting unarmed criminal.
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lawodevolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-16-11 06:18 PM
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49. You are passionate about defending criminals.
You must be one. And it would make sense.
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Tuesday Afternoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:42 AM
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44. .
Edited on Wed Jun-15-11 09:45 AM by Tuesday Afternoon
never mind.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-14-11 09:52 PM
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37. After 30 years of gunshows I finally bought a gun for the first time last year at one.
I go to the shows to check out the latest and greatest, look at all the history, and buy odds and ends type stuff. Of the 100's I've been to I've only bought 1 at a show.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 09:31 AM
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43. I think I've bought 2 at gun shows
One was an Enfield No. 4 Mk II that was in great shape for it's age. Used my C&R for that one from another C&R, no waiting period.

The other was a month or so ago when I got suckered into one of those Golden Boy Henry's in .22. Shoots shorts, Longs and Long Rifles. It was really pretty with the brass and the oiled walnut and I convinced myself of how much money I'd save in the long run buying shorts to plink with in the backyard. I'm a sucker for my own stories and excuses.

I was actually trying to find those machine gun kits and under the table deals we always hear about. But in the case of the Henry I had to go through the waiting period, and NICS check. I must have missed the KKK and Neo-Nazi table sign up too. NRA was there, the Illinois State Assn.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 10:06 AM
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45. full auto kits are sold by that guy with all the straw buyers buying full auto aks for the cartels.
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DonP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-15-11 10:16 AM
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46. Damn! I skipped that table to get some jerky before they ran out
Oh well, there's always next month.

I particularly love people here that tell us all about what happens at gun shows, even though they have never been to one and lie about going very poorly.

Then they admit that the so called loophole is really an issue with private sales, but keep using the "hopefully" more inflammatory "Gun Show Loophole" phrase to try and fool the less informed.
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