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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 06:16 PM
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ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson won't stay under the bus.
http://oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1366:atf-director-testifies-on-operation-targeting-gun-smugglers&catid=22:releasesstatements

WASHINGTON, D.C. – On Monday, July 4, ATF Acting Director Kenneth Melson testified before investigators for the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee and Senate Judiciary Committee about Operation Fast and Furious. Following this interview, Oversight Committee Chairman Darrell Issa and Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Chuck Grassley, in a letter to Attorney General Eric Holder, expressed their deep concerns about the involvement of the DEA, FBI, and other agencies – including the possibility that they were aware of and even working with people connected to Fast and Furious suspects.

In addition to these concerns noted in the letter to the Attorney General, Acting Director Melson made key assertions to investigators:

Contrary to denials by the Justice Department, Acting Director Melson acknowledged the agents had in fact witnessed transfers of weapons from straw purchasers to third parties without following the guns any further.

The ATF group executing Operation Fast and Furious had been placed under the direction of the Arizona U.S. Attorney’s office.


Click here for a copy of the letter from Rep. Issa and Sen. Grassley to Attorney General Holder.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 06:27 PM
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1. So much for this all supposedly being NRA propaganda. nt
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beevul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 06:54 PM
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2. When the wall...
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one-eyed fat man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 07:10 PM
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3. He might want to avoid Fort Marcy Park. nt
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discntnt_irny_srcsm Donating Member (916 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 09:54 PM
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5. Being found there...
...wouldn't necessarily follow from going there.
I'd watch for the black helicopters...
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 09:04 PM
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4. The media is too busy milking the Casey Anthony trial to pay much attention to this story ...
but it could be as big of a story as the Watergate scandal.


According to Mr. Melson, he and ATF's senior leadership team moved to reassign
every manager involved in Fast and Furious, from the Deputy Assistant Director for
Field Operations down to the Group Supervisor, after learning the facts in those
documents. Mr. Melson also said he was not allowed to communicate to Congress the
reasons for the reassignments. He claimed that ATF's senior leadership would have
preferred to be more cooperative with our inquiry much earlier in the process.
However, he said that Justice Department officials directed them not to respond and
took full control of replying to briefing and document requests from Congress. The
result is that Congress only got the parts of the story that the Department wanted us to
hear. If his account is accurate, then ATF leadership appears to have been effectively
muzzled while the DOJ sent over false denials and buried its head in the sand.
That
approach distorted the truth and obstructed our investigation. The Department's
inability or unwillingness to be more forthcoming served to conceal critical information
that we are now learning about the involvement of other agencies, including the DEA
and the FBI.

The Role of DEA, FBI, and Other Agencies

When confronted with information about serious issues involving lack of
information sharing by other agencies, which Committee staff had originally learned
from other witnesses, Mr. Melson's responses tended to corroborate what others had
said. Specifically, we have very real indications from several sources that some of the
gun trafficking "higher-ups" that the ATF sought to identify were already known to
other agencies and may even have been paid as informants. The Acting Director said
that ATF was kept in the dark about certain activities of other agencies, including DEA
and FBI. Mr. Melson said that he learned from ATF agents in the field that information
obtained by these agencies could have had a material impact on the Fast and Furious.

The evidence we have gathered raises the disturbing possibility that the Justice
Department not only allowed criminals to smuggle weapons but that taxpayer dollars
from other agencies may have financed those engaging in such activities. While this is
preliminary information, we must find out if there is any truth to it. According to
Acting Director Melson, he became aware of this startling possibility only after the
murder of Border Patrol Agent Brian Terry and the indictments of the straw purchasers,
which we now know were substantially delayed by the u.s. Attorney's Office and Main
Justice. Mr. Melson provided documents months ago supporting his concerns to the
official in the ODAG responsible for document production to the Committees, but those
documents have not been provided to us.

It is one thing to argue that the ends justify the means in an attempt to defend a
policy that puts building a big case ahead of stopping known criminals from getting
guns. Yet it is a much more serious matter to conceal from Congress the possible
involvement of other agencies in identifying and maybe even working with the same
criminals that Operation Fast and Furious was trying to identify. If this information is
accurate, then the whole misguided operation might have been cut short if not for
catastrophic failures to share key information. If agencies within the same Department,
co-located at the same facilities, had simply communicated with one another, then ATF
might have known that gun trafficking "higher-ups" had been already identified. This
raises new and serious questions about the role of DEA, FBI, the United States
Attorney's Office in Arizona, and Main Justice in coordinating this effort. Nearly a
decade after the September 11th attacks, the stovepipes of information within our
government may still be causing tragic mistakes long after they should have been broken
down.
emphasis added
http://oversight.house.gov/images/stories/Letters/2011-07-05%20ceg-dei%20to%20ag.pdf




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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-06-11 10:56 PM
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6. Kinda like Watergate , yeah . I remember Watergate
Edited on Wed Jul-06-11 10:56 PM by Katya Mullethov

Only now ....... with more typical severed penis in mouth of skinned head war atrocities in every box !

Have you heard the latest ?
The scoop is Honduras might be added to the list of Gun Walking destinations .
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-07-11 10:11 AM
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7. The Tampa "Operation Castaway" ...
Edited on Thu Jul-07-11 10:12 AM by spin
The ATF scandal just keeps getting bigger and bigger but fortunately for the ATF all the news media can talk about is the Casey Anthony trial.

Thanks for the heads up.
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Tejas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-08-11 06:34 PM
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8. Let's hope he stays healthy.
Stranger things have happened.
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SSDA Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:20 AM
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9. New video proving holder and Obama are covering this up.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 09:08 AM
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11. Again, this isn't the smoking gun you seem to think it is..
Project Gunrunner precedes this administration and is not specifically 'Fast & Furious'.

F&F does fall under the aegis of PG, but knowledge of PG does not prove knowledge of F&F.



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SSDA Donating Member (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 08:28 PM
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13. FBI was in n this too.
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 11:07 PM
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14. Right now I trust Melson about as far as I can throw him..
When we get FBI or DEA corroboration, then I'll take Melson's claims seriously.
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ileus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-09-11 08:22 AM
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10. Where is the Citizens shouldn't be allowed to buy firearms peeps?
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Hoopla Phil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-10-11 11:23 AM
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12. Melson is not going to be the scape goat, I wonder if Holder will???
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-11-11 05:02 PM
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15. If MSM sees this flap as damaging to gun-control, they may can it...
and instead serve up more Casey custard.
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Katya Mullethov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-15-11 01:48 PM
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16. Who needs em ?
This here inner webs things is pretty good too .

For instance , did you know, that at this very moment , the Ambassador to Honduras is in Billy Hoover's office ?
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