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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:23 AM
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State Senate Tries To Ban Guns At Lousiana Polls
Here's a big surprise: racist gun owners intimidated voters...

"BATON ROUGE, La. -- Election day commissioners and poll watchers wouldn't be able to carry a gun to the polls, under a bill approved Monday by the Senate in an attempt to stop intimidation of voters trying to cast their ballots.
"There's no reason I can think of why a poll watcher would need a weapon at his side," said Sen. Cleo Fields, D-Baton Rouge, the bill's sponsor."

http://www.ajc.com/news/content/news/0404/06pollguns.html

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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:30 AM
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1. I didn't see anything about racism.
Why don't you pull another "fact" out. Ever hear of anal glaucoma?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:35 AM
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2. No, I don't suppose you would see anything, fat slob...
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:40 AM
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3. Maybe you should get checked for it.
Care to point out the part in the article about racism? Or did you pull it our of an unlit orifice?
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:48 AM
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4. Or maybe you should think for a few moments
and figure out who gets intimidated at polls in the state David Duke calls home...and why.
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:50 AM
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5. Show EVIDENCE.
Or tell where evidence can be had. Like I did when I directed you to the Speaker of the House in KY.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 09:54 AM
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6. For YOU?
There's a fucking laugh.

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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:06 AM
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7. Run away, Bench.
Edited on Thu Apr-15-04 10:08 AM by FatSlob
I'm not surprised. Can't back it up? Just like you couldn't back up the taggants in smokeless powder in Europe. Of course, you should never let facts get in the way of your opinions. You never do.
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:09 AM
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8. I'm not going anywhere
just because YOU want to pretend there's no racism in Louisiana....
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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:28 AM
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12. Do you ever get anything correct?
I asked you to cite the "fact" about racist gun owners intimidating people at the polls. That was in your 1st post. Are you going to do this, or continue to pull "facts" from dark orifices without documentation? :hi:
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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:31 AM
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14. Geeze, fat slob...
I'm not the one pretending that blacks aren't being intimidated at the polls in David Duke's home state. That would be you, for whatever peculiar fucking reason you seem to think it's not a FACT.



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FatSlob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:44 AM
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15. Still no answer.
Cite this statement made by you in the first post.

"Here's a big surprise: racist gun owners intimidated voters..."

You wrote it. Back it up. Or are you incapable of doing that?
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:26 AM
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10. historically ...
http://www.ustrek.org/odyssey/semester1/010301/010301nedavoting.html

(Just the first thing on a results list for louisiana voter intimidation african-americans.)

Wesley Clarke says:

http://www.clark04.com/issues/voting/

Since the 2000 election, significant Republican efforts around the country to suppress minority voter turnout have been documented by the media. In 2002, suppression tactics were reported in Louisiana, New Jersey, South Carolina, Arkansas, and several other states. For example, Republican poll watchers in Arkansas reportedly drove away voters in predominantly black precincts by taking photos and improperly demanding identification during pre-election day balloting in 2002.

Uh oh, New Jersey. But then it probably isn't legal to carry firearms at polls in New Jersey.

Speaking of which -- New Jersey, that is -- you might want to reconsider your position on firearms in the home, Benchley.

... Durn, I think it must be in the April Harper's Index, which isn't on line yet. But it goes like this:

Number of instances of bears breaking into homes in New Jersey last year: 53 (or 56, I forget).

One o' them assault weapons might come in handy ...

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:29 AM
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13. One of the appalling things about having a gun lobby
as every state does...It wasn't until last year that a bill against feeding bears was actually put in. Until then we had pinheads feeding bears in their backyards.

And the gun/hunting lobby fights hard against any proposal to limit bear/deer/etc. populations that does not involve armed drunks in the woods to kill animals that are NOT encroaching on settled areas.
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iverglas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:15 AM
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9. I asked google
The sponsor of the bill:

http://www.blackseek.com/bh/2001/106_CFields.htm

Cleo Fields, was born November 22, 1962 in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. He graduated from McKinley High School in 1980 and earned his bachelor's degree in1984 from Southern University in the field of Mass Communications. In 1987, he obtained a law degree from Southern University's School of Law

... Following his completion of law school, Cleo was elected to the Louisiana State Senate. At the age of 24, he became the youngest person ever elected to the State Senate in Louisiana's history and, at that time, the youngest in the nation.

In 1995, Fields made a bid for the Governor of Louisiana at which time he made a historical mark by being the first African American to successfully win a run-off spot, and became the democratic nominee. He went on to serve two terms as Congressman.

In the fall of 1996, he decided not to seek reelection due to redistricting. Fields then began a general consulting group known as Cleo Fields and Associates where he serves as President and C.E.O.

On December 13, 1997, Cleo Fields was elected to the 14th Senatorial District of Louisiana, returning him to his political origin as State Senator. He is serving in the Senate simultaneously with his younger brother, Senator Wilson Fields, marking the first time in Louisiana history for two brothers to serve at the same time.
One of those important African-American role models, it seems.

Just skimmed this and am not recommending it as authoritative on anything in particular. (From the front page -- http://www.weeklystandard.com/ -- it doesn't exactly look like my cup of tea. Its Republican slant, of course, is what makes it interesting for our purposes.)

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/971epvqa.asp?pg=2

It seems that the Republicans in Louisiana are mighty wary about African-Americans actually voting.

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MrBenchley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 10:26 AM
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11. Ask me next where someone would have to have his head buried
not to see WHY voters were being discriminated against in David Duke's home state....and WHICH voters were on the receiving end.

"It seems that the Republicans in Louisiana are mighty wary about African-Americans actually voting."
They are in lots of states...and in many states they're actually intimidating and harassing black voters at the polls, as pretty much everyone else knows.
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Maurkov Donating Member (126 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:25 AM
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16. Guns are not required for intimidation
Effective self defense may require a gun. Shouldn't we encourage minorities to go to the polls armed, so they can protect themselves and their right to vote? If you can expect to be intimidated at the polls and are forbidden to bring a weapon, what recourse do you have?
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Wickerman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-15-04 11:58 AM
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17. Locking - Flamebait
and if not, it degenerated rapidly.

LB, DU Gungeon Schoolmarm
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