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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 05:57 AM
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Palestinians stab haredi youth in J'lem
evening by two Palestinian youths in the back and neck on Sheikh Jarrah Street near the grave of Shimon HaTzadik in east Jerusalem, MDA reported.

MDA teams evacuated the victim to Jerusalem's Hadassah Ein Karem Hospital, where he was listed in moderate condition.

Police were searching for the two Palestinians.

In response to the stabbing, dozens of Ultra-Orthodox rioted and threw rocks at three cars belonging to Arab residents of east Jerusalem. Two passengers in the cars were lightly wounded from shattered glass and evacuated to Hadassah Hospital on Mount Scopus, Israel Radio reported.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1132475625913&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:22 AM
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1. Quick! Call the cops!
Shoot 'em!! They're using lethal weapons! They're assaulting officers
of the law! Its HUGH!!11!! omg*omg*omg*!!11!! *

--Police who arrived on the scene attempted to arrest one rioter, who escaped after several other crowd members encircled the police force. Another rioter sprayed tear gas at the police, lightly wounding one officer in the face--

Oh. Silly me, *these* criminals have the blessing of the state, nae
chance of them getting hit with a rubber bullet.


* Caution, contains satire.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 06:37 AM
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2. Quick! Excuse violence! It is just a dirty Jew being stabbed!
Edited on Sat Nov-26-05 06:47 AM by Behind the Aegis
Let'em run wild! Kill as many as they can! Let the IDF...oh wait, the IOF...be impotent and do nothing!*

Oh my...no one was killed! Damn those IDF soldiers...not doing their job!*

Oh, silly me, those who stab innocent people are really "freedom fighters!"*

*not satire...just :sarcasm:!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:01 AM
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:38 AM
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4. Yes...it is a waste of time.
You made no mention of the stabbed youth. You only made a mockery of the reaction. The fact that it was a Jew being stabbed and the obvious reaction, seems to have escaped you.

Often, in this forum I see those who excuse this behavior as "justifiable" because the victim represents the occupying force. It doesn't matter that they were shopping in a mall, buying fruit from the market, or waiting for a ride. They deserved their fate.

You say this demonstrates the "hypocrisy," but nary a shot was fired from the IDF. No, sock bullets, no rubber bullets...nothing! Just a stabbed Jew! Perhaps, you are angry that the IDF didn't kill? Perhaps you are disillusioned that the response was not lethal? Or, perhaps, you were were pissed off that an appropriate response was shown?!
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 07:55 AM
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5. Thanks for proving my point.
Have a good day. Remember;

Read. Comprehend. Understand. Comment.

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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:32 AM
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8. point!
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 10:03 AM
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13. less!
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Jim Sagle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 10:30 AM
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14. Pppppfffffffbbbbbtttttttt!!!!!
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:05 AM
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6. Was this an act of terrorism?
Just curious....

Yr claim that you often see people in this forum who excuse this behaviour as 'justifiable' because the victim represents the occupying force is a false one, btw...
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:32 AM
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7. Did I say that?
:rofl:
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:36 AM
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9. Yeah, you did...
From post #4: "Often, in this forum I see those who excuse this behavior as "justifiable" because the victim represents the occupying force. It doesn't matter that they were shopping in a mall, buying fruit from the market, or waiting for a ride. They deserved their fate."


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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 08:38 AM
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10. Then...use the "search" function.
You will find that that it is true.
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Violet_Crumble Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:39 AM
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11. Don't need to...
I don't believe in searching for something that's not there. What you claimed happens often in this forum doesn't happen...

Violet...
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:41 AM
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15. No just normal street violence in a big city
I do not believe that the was racist or terror - just normal NYC street violence.

Nor do I believe that my being mugged and robbed in NYC many years ago was an act of racism or terror - just normal NYC Street violence.
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Colorado Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:28 PM
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21. Satire or not, I don't understand this response. People were
stabbed. Any comments on the stabbing?
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Englander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-29-05 07:45 AM
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32. Yes.
There was one in the deleted post, which was still up at the time that
yer post was sent, which was still on the board at the time that you
made these comments, did you see it? The teenager shouldn't have
been attacked, he didn't deserve to be attacked.

--People were stabbed--

Actually, it wasn't *people*, inferring that more than one youth was
stabbed, the correct word would be 'person', only one teenager was
attacked.

I notice that you do not mention the object of my attempted satire;

'Later in the evening, haredi teens hurled stones at three Arab vehicles traveling on a central Jerusalem thoroughfare, lightly injuring two motorists, police said.

The two who were injured by shards of broken glass in the stoning on Rehov Bar-Ilan were evacuated to Hadassah-University Hospital at Mount Scopus.

Police forces which arrested a Jewish suspect were assaulted by dozens with tear gas, enabling the suspect to flee, Jerusalem police spokesman Shmuel Ben-Ruby said. '

Any comments on the assaults?

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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-26-05 09:41 AM
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12. "Two Palestinian youths stab Haredi youth in the back and neck".
"The Palestinians" didn't do it, two Palestinian kids did.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:57 AM
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16. Yeah and " the Israelis" didn't throw things at Arab cars later, just
a few Israeli "kids"
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 11:59 AM
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17. Exactly, I see you get it. nt
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:05 PM
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22. Actually, I don't n/t
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:47 PM
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23. Well then, you made an excellent stab in the dark there. nt
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:58 PM
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25. luck
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:09 PM
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18. David Dinkins didn't kill Australian Student Yankel Rosenbaum
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 12:23 PM by Coastie for Truth
just your typical NYC street kids -- - and it was justified --


added on edit to make my position perfectly clear:
:rant: :sarcasm:

1. David Dinkins did NOT kill Rosenbaum.
2. It was typical NYC street kids. (I was mugged and robbed in NYC)
3. It was NOT justified - altho some tried to justify it.
4. The attempt by some radicals to justify it elected Rudi Giuliani.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:17 PM
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19. Rosenbaum's killing was justified? nt
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 12:26 PM
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20. All true.
One could quibble about what elected Rudi, but certainly the case was relevant.

May I assume you agree with me then, that this sort of sloppy use of language is to be condemned?
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Orangeone Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 01:55 PM
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24. You're right

about the sloppy use of language but I think it's intentional. The whole purpose of the post is "oooh look how bad Arabs are!"
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:08 PM
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26. That would be speculating.
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 02:13 PM by bemildred
And the truth is this sort of solecism is very common in press headlines, and not merely WRT this issue, and it becomes habitual. The writer may in fact have not thought about it at all. In this particular forum, where we are sensitized, you can quickly get in hot water saying things about "the Jews", but habitually the same usage about Palestinians is overlooked. And one must admit that slanderous generalizations about Jews and Israelis are much in evidence too. Nevertheless, it would be wrong to imply that generally speaking it is intentional, it's more like a bad habit or intellectual laziness in most cases (IMO). If you question people and pin them down a bit they will usually admit that the broad brush is not justified.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 02:12 PM
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27. You don't know the motivation or purpose of this poster
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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 04:38 PM
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28. Since we are both residents of the SF Bay Area
I am not taking offense.

The Bay Area is famous for political over statements of all kinds - that why it's the SF Bay Area.

Home of UC Berkeley, and the Haight.
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Orangeone Donating Member (395 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:53 PM
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30. OK

It was unfair to pick on this post, but I guess I've read one too many of these stories on DU.

Humans do a lot of bad things not just certain groups and societies. I especially get upset because the cherry-picked stories about Palestinians are designed to say "see look how different they (the arabs) are from us!"

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Coastie for Truth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 06:58 PM
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31. Fairly Equally Balanced
On DU, Sproull Plaza, Justin Herman Plaza, Jack London Square, and Civic Center Plaza on Van ness.

One thing we are not famous for out here in the SF Bay Area is "understatement."
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newyorican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-27-05 05:01 PM
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29. The poster has no control over the title...
Edited on Sun Nov-27-05 05:02 PM by newyorican
the rules of this forum dictate that the actual headline of the article must be used. So it's not really fair to blame the original poster.
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