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eyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:29 PM
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Hamas says won't arrest militants behind attacks
Incoming Palestinian interior minister Saeed Seyam, chosen by Hamas to oversee three security services, said on Thursday he will not order the arrest of militants carrying out attacks against Israel.

"The day will never come when any Palestinian would be arrested because of his political affiliation or because of resisting the occupation," Seyam told Reuters in an interview. "The file of political detention must be closed.


As well as vowing not to arrest militants for carrying out attacks against Israel, Seyam said Hamas would try to coordinate militants' operations.

"Talks with the factions in the future will focus on the mechanisms, the shape and the timing (of any attacks)," he said.


Haaretz
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:41 PM
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1. Well, well.
It's better if the Israelis arrest them anyway. More chance of it sticking.
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baltoga Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 03:53 PM
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2. Hamas Policy and Ramifications
Not sure this is a sound policy on Hama's part. Certainly it will give comfort to the miltants, but it also means Israel can expect no security cooperation from the new Palestinian leadership.
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Burning Water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 04:35 PM
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3. Don't think they
expected any, anyway.

It's a stupid move on Hamas' part. Give the Israelis just the slightest encouragement, and they fall all over themselves trying to give concessions. And Hamas is too stupid to play the game. They'd rather play "baby-killer".
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rfkrfk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 03:34 AM
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5. if this is what voters want...
then they got it

I wouldn't read anything more, to this decision
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-23-06 06:33 PM
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4. resisting the occupation
now how does the IDF react when they "accidentally" assassinate the wrong person or kill innocent bystanders???

how about issues of police brutality? attacking innocent non-violent proesters?
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 05:30 AM
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6. as bad as that is....
i'm afraid its not going to compare to what the potential that lies within the hamas.....they dont have the "restrictions" of western society.....the open press and the ability for self critisim......

but then we probably wont hear much about it, since any reporter left, wont be writing much about it

nor do i believe they'll have much use for internationals once they get their "moral squads roaming"...(in gaza already....)
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idontwantaname Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 12:23 PM
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7. lack of possibilities
just a few months back we had a speaking tour pass through featuring an israeli and palestinian working together against the wall... nonviolently.

there definitely is a nonviolent movement out there however the IDF and state of israel does its absolute best to crush this... realizing or not that if/when they do crush the nonviolent movement there will be nothing else for the palestinians to turn to except hamas.

we do what we can but its not easy to fight an army who has bullets and bulldozers and all we have is nonviolence.
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pelsar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-24-06 01:02 PM
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8. non violence requires patience.....
Edited on Fri Mar-24-06 01:18 PM by pelsar
and thats what will win....its happend before (classic being the civil rights movement/ghandi).....what has to be remembered is that the soldiers also have values....and its those that you are after.


to put it into context....during intifada I, which was deemed "non violent" (its all relavtive-there was no guns in the protests), the reserve units had massive gray refusals. Units had a very difficult time to fill their quotas. The soldiers simple didnt see any sense in endaging their lives for "nothing"....for what was deemed very legitimate protests and basic rights of the palestenians.

Intifada II changed that...meaning the suicide bombers, snipers etc was major step backward not just for the palestenains but for the israeli publci. The left was decimated.

in order to get back the israeli left (people like me).....we're looking for the mainstream palestenains to protest or show us that they "day of the suicide bomber" is no longer.....but thats not whats happening . Along side the peaceful protests there are also bombers being caught, kassams flying over......gun battles in gaza, etc

the peaceful protests arent simply enough....we (I) see the larger picture and its doesnt inspire confidence in me that my neighbor will be anything more than a iraq/iran/sudan/taliban style of govt.....whichever way the development goes...and that wont work for us.

keep on protesting, do it peacefully, take the blows (unfortuantly) record them....but also realize theres a lot more going on. Those same soldiers in front of you, were shot at, caught bombers, saw their buddies shot at other times, hence they wont be so sympathetic.

(whats really going on....is if the whole palestenain society can adapt such methods, they would get what they want within a year, the israeli public would not be able to stand up to such protests)
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